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Re: ULA and RIR cost-recovery
From: Michael.Dillon () radianz com
Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2004 13:16:45 +0000
Believe me, this will occur. It will probably start with "Well, we've got this connection to you and this connection
to
ISP B, and, you guys peer, so, can you pass our ULA prefixes along to
each
other?"Talk to the other ISP, work out pricing, and sell an IP over IP
solution,
MPLS solution or some such. Look at this as an opportunity, instead of a
problem, and there's money to be made without leaking the prefixes into
the
backbone. Embrace progress and conceive of creative solutions to
customer
needs.
In today's network, is there anyone left who uses 1500 byte MTUs in their core? Surely even the people with Ethernet switches in their PoPs are now using jumbo frames. In yesterday's Internet, encapsulation was a problem because of the fragmentation required, but it should be a routine thing in today's Internet where fragmentation is avoided. If ULAs, i.e. site local addresses, need to be visible at two disjoint locations in the network, we have the technical means to do this without using up global routing table slots. The same thing applies to geographical addresses which may sometimes need to be made visible in another region. We *CAN* do things at the edges of the network without burdening the core. --Michael Dillon
Current thread:
- Re: ULA and RIR cost-recovery, (continued)
- Re: ULA and RIR cost-recovery Leo Bicknell (Nov 29)
- Re: ULA and RIR cost-recovery Owen DeLong (Nov 29)
- Re: ULA and RIR cost-recovery Leo Bicknell (Nov 29)
- Re: ULA and RIR cost-recovery Pekka Savola (Nov 29)
- Re: ULA and RIR cost-recovery Owen DeLong (Nov 29)
- Re: ULA and RIR cost-recovery Pekka Savola (Nov 29)
- Re: ULA and RIR cost-recovery Owen DeLong (Nov 30)
- Re: ULA and RIR cost-recovery Crist Clark (Nov 24)
- Re: ULA and RIR cost-recovery Owen DeLong (Nov 24)
- Re: ULA and RIR cost-recovery Daniel Senie (Nov 24)
- Re: ULA and RIR cost-recovery Michael . Dillon (Nov 25)
- MTU (was Re: ULA and RIR cost-recovery) Alex Bligh (Nov 25)
- Re: MTU (was Re: ULA and RIR cost-recovery) Bill Owens (Nov 25)
- Re: ULA and RIR cost-recovery Stephen Sprunk (Nov 25)
- Re: ULA and RIR cost-recovery Owen DeLong (Nov 26)
- Re: ULA and RIR cost-recovery Valdis . Kletnieks (Nov 24)
- Re: ULA and RIR cost-recovery Daniel Senie (Nov 24)
- Re: ULA and RIR cost-recovery Valdis . Kletnieks (Nov 25)
- Re: ULA and RIR cost-recovery Daniel Senie (Nov 26)
- Re: ULA and RIR cost-recovery Owen DeLong (Nov 26)
- Re: who gets a /32 [Re: IPV6 renumbering painless?] Iljitsch van Beijnum (Nov 20)