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Re: who gets a /32 [Re: IPV6 renumbering painless?]
From: Andre Oppermann <nanog-list () nrg4u com>
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 16:58:52 +0100
Paul Vixie wrote:
And please don't add any more layering violations. It makes implementors life painful and kills any architectual cleaniess in operating systems.i have long wished for and sometimes needed a way to renumber a host w/o killing or restarting its active tcp flows. this isn't a layering violation. tcp should be able to know about endpoint-renumber events.
This is a layering violation and has endless security implications. You can solve the renumber thingie by having all TCP connecting to/from an official IP on the loopback interface. Then the routing code could do its work and route the packets through some some other or renumbered interface. Try to get your TCP automatic renumbering stuff implemented from spec by five different people in five different codebases in a compatible way within two month time... No way. KISS KISS KISS KISS !!! Why is the telephone (POTS/Mobile) so popular? Easy answer: Even the most stupid person on earth capable of correctly reading digits is able to punch in a number. As simple as it gets. Have you ever worked in luser techsupport? I did for the fun of it. It's not pretty. And that's why IPv6 is not going to fly. It's broken by design in so many places that it's impossible to explain it by phone to Joe Average (with IQ100, I'm not even talking about the average US high school dropout flipping burger in your favorite fast food chain). -- Andre
Current thread:
- Re: A6/DNAME not needed for v6 renumbering [Re: who gets a /32 [Re: IPV6 renumbering painless?]], (continued)
- Re: A6/DNAME not needed for v6 renumbering [Re: who gets a /32 [Re: IPV6 renumbering painless?]] Owen DeLong (Nov 29)
- Re: A6/DNAME not needed for v6 renumbering [Re: who gets a /32 [Re: IPV6 renumbering painless?]] Owen DeLong (Nov 29)
- Re: who gets a /32 [Re: IPV6 renumbering painless?] Christopher L. Morrow (Nov 28)
- Re: who gets a /32 [Re: IPV6 renumbering painless?] Paul Vixie (Nov 28)
- Re: who gets a /32 [Re: IPV6 renumbering painless?] Owen DeLong (Nov 29)
- Re: who gets a /32 [Re: IPV6 renumbering painless?] Kurt Erik Lindqvist (Nov 28)
- Re: who gets a /32 [Re: IPV6 renumbering painless?] Andre Oppermann (Nov 29)
- Re: who gets a /32 [Re: IPV6 renumbering painless?] Paul Vixie (Nov 29)
- Re: who gets a /32 [Re: IPV6 renumbering painless?] Petri Helenius (Nov 29)
- Re: who gets a /32 [Re: IPV6 renumbering painless?] Paul Vixie (Nov 29)
- Re: who gets a /32 [Re: IPV6 renumbering painless?] Andre Oppermann (Nov 29)
- Re: who gets a /32 [Re: IPV6 renumbering painless?] Jeroen Massar (Nov 29)
- Re: who gets a /32 [Re: IPV6 renumbering painless?] Paul Vixie (Nov 29)
- Re: who gets a /32 [Re: IPV6 renumbering painless?] Petri Helenius (Nov 29)
- Re: who gets a /32 [Re: IPV6 renumbering painless?] Andre Oppermann (Nov 29)
- Re: who gets a /32 [Re: IPV6 renumbering painless?] Paul Vixie (Nov 29)
- Re: who gets a /32 [Re: IPV6 renumbering painless?] Joe Abley (Nov 29)
- Re: who gets a /32 [Re: IPV6 renumbering painless?] Owen DeLong (Nov 29)
- Re: who gets a /32 [Re: IPV6 renumbering painless?] Joe Abley (Nov 29)
- Re: who gets a /32 [Re: IPV6 renumbering painless?] Owen DeLong (Nov 29)
- Re: who gets a /32 [Re: IPV6 renumbering painless?] Joe Abley (Nov 29)