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Re: AUP for NANOG?


From: Gregory Hicks <ghicks () cadence com>
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 10:09:41 -0700 (PDT)



From: Per Gregers Bilse <bilse () networksignature com>
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 09:46:14 +0100

On Apr 14,  9:22am, Scott Grayban <scott () fctenterprises com> wrote:
The more bashing I hear here the less I want to ask a question here.
I'm not stupid but I am worried that one question might spark a rash of 
flames back at me.

This is a newbies point of view.

Thanks for braving it.-)

It would be interesting if we knew the newbie:bully:oldie ratio on NANOG.
As an oldie, I would rather see "clueless" newbie questions as opposed to
contentless rants and posturing, and I don't believe any kind of "edge" vs
"core" split of NANOG is good.  Networking is end-to-end, and what is
needed is a "tech" vs "non-tech" split.

In the old days we had a list called com-priv which effectively worked as
the non-tech counterpart; anything to do with domain names, law suits,
business practices, peering politics, legislation and regulation, etc,
etc, etc would go on com-priv.  Many, if not most, people subscribed to
both lists, but kept things separate in their heads and in their postings.
That didn't mean NANOG was a panacea for newbies, but just getting today's
S/N ratio under control would be of great help.

We HAVE such a list:  nanog-offtopic () lists blank org

It has been around for several years now...  Unfortunately, not too much 
used...

Regards,
Gregory Hicks


  -- Per


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