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Re: ISP's In Uproar Over Verizon-MCI Merger


From: Robert Bonomi <bonomi () mail r-bonomi com>
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 07:19:31 -0500 (CDT)


From owner-nanog () merit edu  Wed Aug 24 23:28:58 2005
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 21:27:15 -0700 (PDT)
From: Joel Jaeggli <joelja () darkwing uoregon edu>
To: Daniel Golding <dgolding () burtongroup com>
Cc: Joe Abley <jabley () isc org>, Lewis Butler <lbutler () covisp net>,
        NANOG list <nanog () merit edu>
Subject: Re: ISP's In Uproar Over Verizon-MCI Merger


On Wed, 24 Aug 2005, Daniel Golding wrote:


I suggest you take another look at these numbers. Those countries with
overall population densities lower than the US's all have something in
common - they are really cold. Iceland, Canada, Finland, Norway, Sweden.
Folks in those countries are densely packed into relatively small regions of
their overall land area (near oceans or in cities). Sure, some folks live
out in Nunavut, but a relatively small number. Contrast that with the US
where the population is far more spread out.

This is an issue of both distribution and density, not just density.


So you're saying the US is screwed because of unique geography? Or is that 
something poltical will can overcome?

political will cannot overcome the situation where it is further from the
_property-line_ to the house than the reach of DSL or cable -- never mind
the distance from the telco C.O., or the cable head-end.

Delivering service in low-population density areas is _expensive_, no matter
how you do it, when measured on a 'per user' basis.  'Wireless' is the most
efficient way to serve low-density areas, but the cost-per-user is still 
orders of magnitude higher than wired service in a high-population-density
locale.

If you want to do 'meaningful' geographic comparasions,  one needs to break
down each geopolitical entity into sub-areas, by population density.  and
look at relative coverage within the areas of 'comparable' population density.




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