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RE: Compromised machines liable for damage?
From: Barry Shein <bzs () world std com>
Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 15:01:32 -0500
On December 25, 2005 at 23:14 hannigan () verisign com (Hannigan, Martin) wrote:
Dave, RIAA wins almost 100pct vs p2p'ers ir sues. Its an interesting dichotomy.
Mostly because it's almost always cheaper to settle than pursue a defense. Read the articles about this "internet illiterate download mom vs RIAA" story (you can't have missed it.) She could've settled for ~$3500, she decided to fight it, she's now at $24,000 in legal expenses and hasn't even gotten close to trial. No juries to convince, no expert witnesses, no courtroom, no fascinating point of law debated, just a simple economic choice, wanna plead guilty for $3500 or run up $25K in legal bills and more? And probably settle anyhow when you decide you've had enough. Anyone who speaks about juries, the law, judges, etc in these kinds of cases is just revealing themselves as having never had any experience with the US legal system, or is speaking for a wealthy corporation who can toss $50K at cases on a whim. In my experience you can easily run up $25K in initial filings, just letters going back and forth between both sides' lawyers, no judge or court involved other than it's being filed by a clerk who checks some mechanics (e.g., deadlines), but no one at the court is reading any of it and they sincerely hope they never have to (i.e., that you'll settle out of court, probably because one side ran out of money.) -- -Barry Shein The World | bzs () TheWorld com | http://www.TheWorld.com Purveyors to the Trade | Voice: 800-THE-WRLD | Login: Nationwide Software Tool & Die | Public Access Internet | SINCE 1989 *oo*
Current thread:
- RE: Compromised machines liable for damage? Hannigan, Martin (Dec 25)
- Re: Compromised machines liable for damage? Steven M. Bellovin (Dec 25)
- RE: Compromised machines liable for damage? Barry Shein (Dec 26)
- Re: Compromised machines liable for damage? Paul Vixie (Dec 26)
- Re: Compromised machines liable for damage? Florian Weimer (Dec 27)
- Re: Compromised machines liable for damage? Matthew Sullivan (Dec 27)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- Re: Compromised machines liable for damage? Hannigan, Martin (Dec 25)
- RE: Compromised machines liable for damage? Hannigan, Martin (Dec 26)
- RE: Compromised machines liable for damage? Owen DeLong (Dec 26)
- RE: Compromised machines liable for damage? Hannigan, Martin (Dec 26)
- RE: Compromised machines liable for damage? Owen DeLong (Dec 26)
- Re: Compromised machines liable for damage? Steven M. Bellovin (Dec 27)
- Re: Compromised machines liable for damage? Owen DeLong (Dec 27)
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