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Re: Collecting PTR names or IP addresses (Was: Re: IRC Bot list (cross posting))
From: bmanning () vacation karoshi com
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 19:58:13 +0000
On Fri, Feb 11, 2005 at 03:45:52PM +0000, Ketil Froyn wrote:
http://www.albany.edu/~ja6447/hacked_bots8.txtIsn't it a good idea to collect the IP addresses rather than the ptr name? For instance, if I were an evil person in control of the ptr record of my own IP, I could easily make the name something like 1-2-3-4.dsl.verizon.net, and if you didn't collect my IP, you can never be sure you got the right details! Something like this is probably not very widespread (has anyone seen it in practice?), but I still think that for tracking purposes, ptr records are useless. IMHO. Ketil
PTR records are just as pointless as A records... in a secured DNS heirarchy, this is less of an issue since you have to spoof the entire delegation chain. so either trust the DNS (both forward and reverse) or not. For forensics, collect the DNS lables and the IP addresses associated w/ them. and yes, i have seen DNS spoofing in the wild, both A and PTR, although A spoofing is much more pronounced. --bill
Current thread:
- Re: IRC Bot list (cross posting), (continued)
- Re: IRC Bot list (cross posting) Gadi Evron (Feb 08)
- Re: IRC Bot list (cross posting) Petri Helenius (Feb 09)
- Re: IRC Bot list (cross posting) Jim Popovitch (Feb 08)
- Re: IRC Bot list (cross posting) Jim Popovitch (Feb 08)
- Re: IRC Bot list (cross posting) william(at)elan.net (Feb 08)
- Re: IRC Bot list (cross posting) Bill Nash (Feb 08)
- Re: IRC Bot list (cross posting) william(at)elan.net (Feb 08)
- Re: IRC Bot list (cross posting) Scott Weeks (Feb 08)
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- Re: [unisog] Collecting PTR names rather than IP addresses (Was: Re: IRC Bot list (cross posting)) Valdis . Kletnieks (Feb 09)
- Collecting PTR names or IP addresses (Was: Re: IRC Bot list (cross posting)) Ketil Froyn (Feb 11)
- Re: Collecting PTR names or IP addresses (Was: Re: IRC Bot list (cross posting)) bmanning (Feb 11)
- Re: Collecting PTR names or IP addresses (Was: Re: IRC Bot list (cross posting)) Gadi Evron (Feb 14)
- Re: Collecting PTR names or IP addresses (Was: Re: IRC Bot list (cross posting)) Adam Jacob Muller (Feb 11)
- Re: Collecting PTR names or IP addresses (Was: Re: IRC Bot list (cross posting)) Gadi Evron (Feb 14)
- Re: Collecting PTR names or IP addresses (Was: Re: IRC Bot list (crossposting)) Gadi Evron (Feb 14)
- Re: Collecting PTR names or IP addresses (Was: Re: IRC Bot list (cross posting)) bmanning (Feb 11)
- RE: IRC Bot list (cross posting) Bill Nash (Feb 08)
- Re: IRC Bot list (cross posting) Gadi Evron (Feb 09)