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Re: Internet Email Services Association ( wasRE: Why do so few mail providers support Port 587?)
From: Niels Bakker <niels=nanog () bakker net>
Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2005 00:34:51 +0100
* Michael.Dillon () radianz com (Michael.Dillon () radianz com) [Fri 25 Feb 2005, 18:13 CET]:
Unfortunately, providers seem to prefer unilateral heavy-handed behavior rather than acting professional. They prefer working out solutions in isolation or in small closed cabals working in secret in backrooms rather than working open to public scrutiny in an association. They prefer to operate in an environment in which there are no agreed policies for Internet email exchange rather than having a viable Internet email system in which everyone works together to add value to the users. They prefer to play secret games with blacklists, bayesian filters, hodge-podges tacked onto the Internet's DNS systems, and other antisocial behaviors rather than openly saying that people must meet certain standards in order to *SEND* email.
You keep riding this particular horse. Right now, to connect to the Internet you need to comply with quite some regulations already - have a computer and a modem and a contract with a dialup ISP, or even get DSL or cable installed. More options are available if you have more money, companies can pay for redundant T3's etc. Obviously this has not kept the `bad guys' out. Why do you think that enforcing contractual relationships for e-mail as well as basic IP service will make any difference? Why do you believe more red tape will mean better service? -- Niels. -- The idle mind is the devil's playground
Current thread:
- RE: Why do so few mail providers support Port 587?, (continued)
- RE: Why do so few mail providers support Port 587? Christopher X. Candreva (Feb 25)
- Re: Why do so few mail providers support Port 587? Joe Provo (Feb 26)
- RE: Why do so few mail providers support Port 587? Sean Donelan (Feb 25)
- RE: Why do so few mail providers support Port 587? Edward B. Dreger (Feb 26)
- Re: Why do so few mail providers support Port 587? Jason Frisvold (Feb 25)
- Internet Email Services Association ( wasRE: Why do so few mail providers support Port 587?) Michael . Dillon (Feb 25)
- Re: Internet Email Services Association ( wasRE: Why do so few mail providers support Port 587?) Suresh Ramasubramanian (Feb 25)
- Re: Internet Email Services Association ( wasRE: Why do so few mail providers support Port 587?) Michael . Dillon (Feb 25)
- The Terrible Secret of MAAWG (was Re: Internet Email Services Association ( wasRE: Why do so few mail providers support Port 587?)) J.D. Falk (Feb 25)
- Re: The Terrible Secret of MAAWG (was Re: Internet Email Services Association ( wasRE: Why do so few mail providers support Port 587?)) Suresh Ramasubramanian (Feb 25)
- Re: Internet Email Services Association ( wasRE: Why do so few mail providers support Port 587?) Niels Bakker (Feb 25)
- Re: Internet Email Services Association ( wasRE: Why do so few mail providers support Port 587?) Steven J. Sobol (Feb 26)
- Re: Why do so few mail providers support Port 587? Eric A. Hall (Feb 25)
- Re: Why do so few mail providers support Port 587? Frank Louwers (Feb 25)
- Re: Why do so few mail providers support Port 587? just me (Feb 25)
- Re: Why do so few mail providers support Port 587? Christopher X. Candreva (Feb 25)
- Re: Why do so few mail providers support Port 587? just me (Feb 25)
- Re: Why do so few mail providers support Port 587? Christopher X. Candreva (Feb 25)
- Re: Why do so few mail providers support Port 587? Edward B. Dreger (Feb 25)
- Re: Why do so few mail providers support Port 587? just me (Feb 25)
- Re: Why do so few mail providers support Port 587? J.D. Falk (Feb 25)