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Re: fixing insecure email infrastructure (was: Re: [eweek article] Window of "anonymity" when domain exists, whois not updated yet)
From: Steven Champeon <schampeo () hesketh com>
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:55:16 -0500
on Wed, Jan 12, 2005 at 05:28:45PM +0000, Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine wrote:
"All" is too blunt a tool.
So, then, when registering a domain, there should be a little checkbox saying "I intend to abuse the Internet with this domain"? It makes no sense to have a universal policy if it is not universally enforced. Why is it considered such a crazy proposition that domains should have valid and correct whois data associated with them?
Please see my other message. Allowing domains with invalid whois data to remain in use facilitates abuse in other realms.If it isn't "fixing insecure email infrastructure", then it needs to find a thread and/or list of its own.
Bah. You're saying that you're uninterested in discussing the root causes that allow and even encourage abuse to occur in specific realms. I guess you're not interested in actually "fixing insecure email infrastructure".
The little table of domain names and redirects is slightly useful, but it would be more useful if your data could show registrar clustering.
Why should this matter? Spammy can always choose a different registrar every day. So what? He is registering domains for use in abusive and criminal acts, and the message I'm getting from you is that it should only be of concern to you if he uses the same registrar? -- hesketh.com/inc. v: +1(919)834-2552 f: +1(919)834-2554 w: http://hesketh.com join us! http://hesketh.com/about/careers/account_manager.html join us!
Current thread:
- Re: [eweek article] Window of "anonymity" when domain exists, whois not updated yet, (continued)
- Re: [eweek article] Window of "anonymity" when domain exists, whois not updated yet Suresh Ramasubramanian (Jan 12)
- Re: [eweek article] Window of "anonymity" when domain exists, whois not updated yet Michael . Dillon (Jan 12)
- fixing insecure email infrastructure (was: Re: [eweek article] Window of "anonymity" when domain exists, whois not updated yet) Steven Champeon (Jan 12)
- Re: fixing insecure email infrastructure (was: Re: [eweek article] Window of "anonymity" when domain exists, whois not updated yet) Chris Adams (Jan 12)
- Re: fixing insecure email infrastructure (was: Re: [eweek article] Window of "anonymity" when domain exists, whois not updated yet) Steven Champeon (Jan 12)
- Re: fixing insecure email infrastructure (was: Re: [eweek article] Window of "anonymity" when domain exists, whois not updated yet) Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine (Jan 12)
- Re: fixing insecure email infrastructure (was: Re: [eweek article] Window of "anonymity" when domain exists, whois not updated yet) Steven Champeon (Jan 12)
- Re: fixing insecure email infrastructure (was: Re: [eweek article] Window of "anonymity" when domain exists, whois not updated yet) Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine (Jan 12)
- Re: fixing insecure email infrastructure (was: Re: [eweek article] Window of "anonymity" when domain exists, whois not updated yet) Steven Champeon (Jan 12)
- Re: fixing insecure email infrastructure (was: Re: [eweek article] Window of "anonymity" when domain exists, whois not updated yet) Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine (Jan 12)
- Re: fixing insecure email infrastructure (was: Re: [eweek article] Window of "anonymity" when domain exists, whois not updated yet) Steven Champeon (Jan 12)
- Re: fixing insecure email infrastructure (was: Re: [eweek article] Window of "anonymity" when domain exists, whois not updated yet) Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine (Jan 12)
- Re: fixing insecure email infrastructure (was: Re: [eweek article] Window of "anonymity" when domain exists, whois not updated yet) Adi Linden (Jan 12)
- Re: fixing insecure email infrastructure (was: Re: [eweek article] Window of "anonymity" when domain exists, whois not updated yet) Steven Champeon (Jan 12)
- Re: fixing insecure email infrastructure (was: Re: [eweek article] Window of "anonymity" when domain exists, whois not updated yet) Valdis . Kletnieks (Jan 12)
- Re: fixing insecure email infrastructure (was: Re: [eweek article] Window of "anonymity" when domain exists, whois not updated yet) Dave Crocker (Jan 12)
- Re: fixing insecure email infrastructure (was: Re: [eweek article] Window of "anonymity" when domain exists, whois not updated yet) Valdis . Kletnieks (Jan 12)
- Re: fixing insecure email infrastructure (was: Re: [eweek article] Window of "anonymity" when domain exists, whois not updated yet) Suresh Ramasubramanian (Jan 12)
- Re: fixing insecure email infrastructure (was: Re: [eweek article] Window of "anonymity" when domain exists, whois not updated yet) Steven Champeon (Jan 12)
- Re: fixing insecure email infrastructure (was: Re: [eweek article] Window of "anonymity" when domain exists, whois not updated yet) Andre Oppermann (Jan 13)
- Re: marking dynamic ranges, was fixing insecure email infrastructure John Levine (Jan 13)