Re: soBGP deployment

[bmanning () vacation karoshi com]

On Mon, May 23, 2005 at 11:06:23PM -0400, Randy Bush wrote:
> > > I suspect the right thing to do is to ask why soBGP and sBGP
> > > have failed?
> > Or maybe, jut maybe, because we've never had the tools to deploy
> > it.
>
> actually, we had a small workshop with sbgp tools at the last
> eugene nanog.  perhaps it's time for another?  bill, can you host
> at he next nanog, as it is on your turf?

        sure...  point me in the right direction :)

> but, of course, for real deployment, those tools, built for *bsd
> and linux, would limit initial deployment to those running pc-based
> routers.  to go futher, we would need support from juniper and
> other vendors.

        yes... but it is possible to get the ISP engineering 
        crews to "kick the tyres" w/ generic platforms.  
        
> i receive a bgp announcement from a new peer, but the announcement
> was originated two weeks ago (shockers!  a stable route); was the
> asserted path to my new peer valid when the announcement was
> originated two weeks ago?  once your mind starts down such paranoid
> paths, the void opens before one's eyes.

        surrender!
> randy