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Re: Schneier: ISPs should bear security burden
From: "Jay R. Ashworth" <jra () baylink com>
Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 12:16:05 -0400
On Thu, Apr 28, 2005 at 08:03:57AM -0500, Olsen, Jason wrote:
You must not have used it much in those 20 years. I can definitely say worms, trojans, spam, phishing, ddos, and other attacks is up several orders of magnitude in those 20 years.The userbase has also increased by several orders of magnitude beyond that. 1% "bad" traffic at 100 users: 1 1% "bad" traffic at 1,000,000 users: 10,000
And this raises an absolutely excellent stand-alone point that seems to me to be something that netops types should be keeping uppermost in their minds: When a problem gets big enough, it's a *different* problem, not just a bigger problem. An analogy to this (actually, a result of it) is the difference between the office policies in a 5-person company and a 500-person one, or a town of 10,000 and a city of 400,000. This seems to bear on almost everything I've seen said in this thread (which is the award winner for the year so far...) Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth jra () baylink com Designer Baylink RFC 2100 Ashworth & Associates The Things I Think '87 e24 St Petersburg FL USA http://baylink.pitas.com +1 727 647 1274 If you can read this... thank a system administrator. Or two. --me
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- Re: Schneier: ISPs should bear security burden Paul Vixie (May 02)
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