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Re: IAB and "private" numbering
From: Mark Smith <random () 72616e646f6d20323030342d30342d31360a nosense org>
Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 06:44:49 +1030
On Thu, 17 Nov 2005 17:44:10 +0100 Daniel Karrenberg <daniel.karrenberg () ripe net> wrote:
On 15.11 07:38, Mark Smith wrote:RFC1627, "Network 10 Considered Harmful (Some Practices Shouldn't be Codified)" and RFC3879, "Deprecating Site Local Addresses" provide some good examples of where duplicate or overlapping address spaces cause problems, which is what happens when different organisations use RFC1918 addresses, even if they aren't connected to the Internet.This is practical engineering, not theoretical science. Practical engineering is about *trade-offs*.
All I know is that I've had bad experiences with duplicated or overlapping address spaces. One particularly bad one was spending two months developing templates for combinations of NAT / NAPT for Internet / VPN access (e.g. NAT to Internet, not VPN; NAT to VPN, not Internet; NAPT to Internet, NAT to VPN, different "to" address spaces for NAT to the Internet and NAT to the VPN etc. etc.). In addition to developing these solutions I also sat scratching my head for two months asking "why not just give them public address space, restoring uniqueness to their addressing, so I can work on improving the product rather than just developing work arounds ?". Spending time on work arounds, as well as building protocol and other limitations into the network that will be encountered in the future, isn't a good trade-off in my opinion. Regards, Mark. -- "Sheep are slow and tasty, and therefore must remain constantly alert." - Bruce Schneier
Current thread:
- Re: IAB and "private" numbering, (continued)
- Re: IAB and "private" numbering Peter Dambier (Nov 13)
- Re: IAB and "private" numbering Steven M. Bellovin (Nov 13)
- Re: IAB and "private" numbering Peter Dambier (Nov 14)
- Re: IAB and "private" numbering Geoff Huston (Nov 13)
- Re: IAB and "private" numbering David Conrad (Nov 15)
- Re: IAB and "private" numbering Geoff Huston (Nov 15)
- Re: IAB and "private" numbering Tony Tauber (Nov 14)
- Re: IAB and "private" numbering Mark Smith (Nov 14)
- Re: IAB and "private" numbering Daniel Karrenberg (Nov 17)
- Re: IAB and "private" numbering Mark Smith (Nov 17)