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Re: IAB and "private" numbering


From: Mark Smith <random () 72616e646f6d20323030342d30342d31360a nosense org>
Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 06:44:49 +1030


On Thu, 17 Nov 2005 17:44:10 +0100
Daniel Karrenberg <daniel.karrenberg () ripe net> wrote:

On 15.11 07:38, Mark Smith wrote:

RFC1627, "Network 10 Considered Harmful (Some Practices Shouldn't be
Codified)" and RFC3879, "Deprecating Site Local Addresses" provide some
good examples of where duplicate or overlapping address spaces cause
problems, which is what happens when different organisations use RFC1918
addresses, even if they aren't connected to the Internet.

This is practical engineering, not theoretical science.  Practical
engineering is about *trade-offs*. 


All I know is that I've had bad experiences with duplicated or
overlapping address spaces. One particularly bad one was spending two
months developing templates for combinations of NAT / NAPT for Internet
/ VPN access (e.g. NAT to Internet, not VPN; NAT to VPN, not Internet;
NAPT to Internet, NAT to VPN, different "to" address spaces for NAT to
the Internet and NAT to the VPN etc. etc.). In addition to developing
these solutions I also sat scratching my head for two months asking "why
not just give them public address space, restoring uniqueness to their
addressing, so I can work on improving the product rather than just
developing work arounds ?". Spending time on work arounds, as well as
building protocol and other limitations into the network that will be
encountered in the future, isn't a good trade-off in my
opinion.

Regards,
Mark.

-- 

        "Sheep are slow and tasty, and therefore must remain constantly
         alert."
                                                       - Bruce Schneier


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