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Re: What do we mean when we say "competition?"
From: Sean Donelan <sean () donelan com>
Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 16:52:34 -0500 (EST)
On Sat, 26 Nov 2005, Robert E.Seastrom wrote:
My understanding is that there is a fairly small number of pots circuits (2?) that they can bring in over the B-PON, and that moreover ISDN BRI and hicap (eg. repeatered or HDSL DS1 service) are entirely incompatible.
Circuit Emulation Services (CES) have been offered by both cable and telephone companies for serveral years. Some cable companies use CES to provision ISDN, T1, T3, etc circuits over their coaxial plant. Cable companies may be doing this only for their "high-value" customers. Telephone companies can use similar CES technology to provision circuits over FTTx or other local loop facilities. Some carriers have completely converged core networks now, so your circuit services may already be using CES. Carriers (or their vendors) think operating a converged network will be less expensive, and are trying to push the convergence closer to the customer edge. Have you noticed Comcast and other cable companies are increasing their video rates by up to 7% starting January 1, but not the price of voice or data services, even though they use the same coaxial cable for all three services?
Current thread:
- Re: What do we mean when we say "competition?", (continued)
- Re: What do we mean when we say "competition?" David Barak (Nov 16)
- Re: What do we mean when we say "competition?" Owen DeLong (Nov 16)
- RE: What do we mean when we say "competition?" David Schwartz (Nov 17)
- Re: What do we mean when we say "competition?" Matthew Crocker (Nov 17)
- Re: What do we mean when we say "competition?" Henry Yen (Nov 26)
- Re: What do we mean when we say "competition?" Robert E . Seastrom (Nov 26)
- Re: What do we mean when we say "competition?" Steve Sobol (Nov 26)
- Re: What do we mean when we say "competition?" Owen DeLong (Nov 26)
- Re: What do we mean when we say "competition?" Steve Sobol (Nov 27)
- Re: What do we mean when we say "competition?" Deepak Jain (Nov 26)
- Re: What do we mean when we say "competition?" Sean Donelan (Nov 27)
- Re: What do we mean when we say "competition?" Henry Yen (Nov 30)
- Re: What do we mean when we say "competition?" (was: Re: [Latest draft of Internet regulation bill]) Marshall Eubanks (Nov 16)
- Re: [Latest draft of Internet regulation bill] Bill Stewart (Nov 14)
- Re: [Latest draft of Internet regulation bill] Christopher L. Morrow (Nov 12)
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- Re: [Latest draft of Internet regulation bill] Tom Vest (Nov 12)
- Re: [Latest draft of Internet regulation bill] Christian Kuhtz (Nov 12)
- Re: [Latest draft of Internet regulation bill] Tom Vest (Nov 12)
- Re: [Latest draft of Internet regulation bill] Sean Donelan (Nov 12)
- Re: [Latest draft of Internet regulation bill] Christopher L. Morrow (Nov 12)
- Re: [Latest draft of Internet regulation bill] Owen DeLong (Nov 10)