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Re: IPv6 news
From: "william(at)elan.net" <william () elan net>
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 17:48:53 -0700 (PDT)
On Wed, 12 Oct 2005, Sean Figgins wrote:
On Wed, 12 Oct 2005, william(at)elan.net wrote:addresses. But of those "few" many are those doing P2P sharing especially with BitTorent and this application requires open port on the user end, so in fact P2P and BT may prove to be the cornerstone to getting wider use of IPv6 after we ran out of v4 space...Both BT and other P2P protocols are perfectly happy behind NAT. There are a few that seem to prefer that they have a non-natted address, or use some port forwarding.
P2P protocols will work behind NAT only for clients. But if you want to have distributed indexes and distributed content servers (which is whatP2P aims at) you need to have those who provide content to have open ports for outsiders to connect to. With NAT this is achieved by opening those specific ports which is fine for when you have home firewall but it would not work if you do not control the NAT box.
But its possible to use technique where only index server has to have an open port and than require all content server clients to keep open connection to it and use that to direct them to connect to new clients
requesing the data - I'm not sure if BT is doing it right now or not.
Those applications will just need to be fixed if it becomes a common practive of handing out NAT addresses to customers.
You can fix some applications but not all and when you're faced with situations that you do not even control NAT, then you have a problem.
I think the bigger problem would be that of a larger company running out of RFC 1918 space, for various reasons.
If its corporate system, they'd also end up using NAT (many already do).The problem would be for webhosts and ASPs who have no choice but to use real ips.
-- William Leibzon Elan Networks william () elan net
Current thread:
- Re: IPv6 news, (continued)
- Re: IPv6 news Daniel Roesen (Oct 12)
- Re: IPv6 news Joel Jaeggli (Oct 12)
- Re: IPv6 news Randy Bush (Oct 12)
- Bittorrent on v6 [Re: IPv6 news] Pekka Savola (Oct 12)
- Re: IPv6 news JORDI PALET MARTINEZ (Oct 12)
- Re: IPv6 news Sean Figgins (Oct 12)
- Re: IPv6 news JORDI PALET MARTINEZ (Oct 13)
- Re: IPv6 news Valdis . Kletnieks (Oct 13)
- Re: IPv6 news Stephen Sprunk (Oct 14)
- Re: IPv6 news Joseph S D Yao (Oct 14)
- Re: IPv6 news william(at)elan.net (Oct 12)
- Re: IPv6 news Sean Figgins (Oct 12)
- Re: IPv6 news Randy Bush (Oct 12)
- Re: IPv6 news K. Scott Bethke (Oct 12)
- Re: IPv6 news Randy Bush (Oct 12)
- Re: IPv6 news Kevin Loch (Oct 12)
- Re: IPv6 news Stephen Sprunk (Oct 14)
- Deploying 6to4 outbound routes at the border (was Re: IPv6 news) Todd Vierling (Oct 14)
- Re: Deploying 6to4 outbound routes at the border (was Re: IPv6 news) Daniel Roesen (Oct 14)
- Re: Deploying 6to4 outbound routes at the border (was Re: IPv6 news) Todd Vierling (Oct 14)