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Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering
From: Matthew Crocker <matthew () crocker com>
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 13:13:00 -0400
I opened a billing/support ticket with Cogent. I'm not planning on paying my bill or continuing the contract if they cannot provide full BGP tables and full Internet transport (barring outages). Luckily I have 2 other providers so I can still reach Level 3.I'm curious where in your contract you think Cogent guaranteed you connectivity to Level 3?
My original contract was with NTT/Verio which Cogent purchased last year when Verio nuked their Boston POP. I'm having the contract dug out of the archives to look at what it says. IMHO I pay Cogent for Transit to the whole Internet, If I wanted partial transit or local peering I would order/contract and pay for that. Cogent is not currently providing me full transit service. I really don't care who pulled the plug, it is Cogents job to fix it for me as I am their customer.
Most transit contracts only guarantee packet delivery to the edge of their own networks. I'm pretty sure Cogent is doing that. (Hell, they have lots of spare capacity now. :)
Most also have a clause to cover the inter-AS links, making sure that they are not overloaded.
Maybe I can buy the new 'Cogent - it is almost the Internet' service for less money.Maybe. Would you pay L3 for "almost the Internet" as well?
Yes, if the price were right. -- Matthew S. Crocker Vice President Crocker Communications, Inc. Internet Division PO BOX 710 Greenfield, MA 01302-0710 http://www.crocker.com
Current thread:
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering, (continued)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Vince Hoffman (Oct 05)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Matthew Crocker (Oct 05)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Simon Lockhart (Oct 05)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Joe Abley (Oct 05)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Matthew Crocker (Oct 05)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Douglas Dever (Oct 05)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering william(at)elan.net (Oct 05)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Patrick W. Gilmore (Oct 05)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Matthew Crocker (Oct 05)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Vince Hoffman (Oct 05)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Mike Tancsa (Oct 05)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Patrick W. Gilmore (Oct 05)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Matthew Crocker (Oct 05)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Todd Vierling (Oct 05)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Matthew Crocker (Oct 05)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Todd Vierling (Oct 05)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering John Payne (Oct 05)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Patrick W. Gilmore (Oct 05)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Todd Vierling (Oct 05)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Douglas Dever (Oct 05)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Matthew Crocker (Oct 05)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering Alex Rubenstein (Oct 05)
- Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering JC Dill (Oct 05)