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Re: Turkey has switched Root-Servers
From: Peter Dambier <peter () peter-dambier de>
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 14:01:18 +0200
Joseph S D Yao wrote:
On Thu, Sep 29, 2005 at 09:28:03AM +0200, Peter Dambier wrote: ...E.g. NAZI sites and propaganda are prohibited in germany. They are welcome in the u.s. That delivers a pseudo excuse for corrupt german politician to... Without comment on the rest of this, I feel I must note that to most people in the USA [including both corrupt and uncorrupt (if any) politicians ;-)], such sites are definitely NOT welcome. They are tolerated because of the principle of free speech. Please note the immense difference, ye who believe in principles! ... However, if they cross the line into promoting criminal activity, that is NOT tolerated.
Please dont take me too very litteral on this. 1.) I have slept bad, because of problems with The Public-Root. 2.) I cannot think of anybody welcoming those sites. But I am afraid those sites do give a pseudo excuse for censoring gouvernments. It is a pseudo excuse. In fact it does the opposite. They are hiding the information that those sites exist. So they are helping those sites to flurrish in foraign contries. Censoring is bad. Worse than those sites in the first place. What can be used will be misused. Censoring was ment good but it was missused to censor Dr. med Julius Hellenthal. There was no reason and no right to censor him. Afterwards nobody has been it and nobody tries to find out who was it or why. Collateral damage. With censoring there is always collateral damage. Telling everybody - look at those guys - and explaining, is much better. With a single root there will be a single point of failure. With more that one root it is a lot more difficult to make censoring work. Look at ICANN. A lot of people say it smells like corruption. Look at The Public-Root it is not much better. http://www.cynikal.net/~baptista/P-R/ There will always be people trying to make bad use of things meant good. We can never hinder them. We can only make their live difficult by preventing a single point of failure. Thank you for watching this. But please watch too: http://www.icannwatch.org/ Kind regards, Peter and Karin Dambier -- Peter and Karin Dambier Public-Root Graeffstrasse 14 D-64646 Heppenheim +49-6252-671788 (Telekom) +49-179-108-3978 (O2 Genion) +49-6252-750308 (VoIP: sipgate.de) +1-360-448-1275 (VoIP: freeworldialup.com) mail: peter () peter-dambier de http://iason.site.voila.fr http://www.kokoom.com/iason
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