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Re: Open Letter to D-Link about their NTP vandalism
From: Richard A Steenbergen <ras () e-gerbil net>
Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 18:49:18 -0400
On Fri, Apr 07, 2006 at 12:52:29PM -0700, Etaoin Shrdlu wrote:
Well, this is at least marginally on topic, and I think it deserves a wider audience. It is written by Poul-Henning Kamp (the affected party). Please read it. http://people.freebsd.org/~phk/dlink/
*sigh* Yes yes everyone loves a good "large stupid company screws the little guy by sticking their small/free service into a commercial product" story, but unfortunately none of these solutions are very pragmatic. If I hosted an NTP server and dlink put it in a default query list of a default firmware, and then I asked them to pay my Equinix bill for the next 5 years, I would fully expect them to provide a nice little ascii diagram of exactly where I could stick it. Its just NTP, I can't imagine that it is *really* enough traffic to care all that much. There are probably a hundred people on this list who could donate free transit for this and not give it a second thought (hell if I had a pop anywhere close to .dk I would donate a gigabit solely to end this nanog thread before it turns into a bunch of self-righteous whining). There are probably an equal number of people who could donate hardware for this, either for filtering or for the IX (if they REALLY don't have the resources to handle it without charging, which I highly doubt). I'm sure you could probably pick out the dlink queries with sufficient packet inspection too, which I'm also sure you can achieve with a FreeBSD box and a couple hours of spare time. :) Seriously now, there are a million viable solutions here, ranging from mild inconvenience to attempting to screw dlink for being dumbasses, all of which are free. Point the A record else where and have people who care change to a new record, it's not worth $62k. Oh and one more thing, if the goal was restricting the traffic to only people who participated at this IX (as per the description), please add this to the list of reasons why announcing your IX subnet over the global internet is a BAD IDEA! -- Richard A Steenbergen <ras () e-gerbil net> http://www.e-gerbil.net/ras GPG Key ID: 0xF8B12CBC (7535 7F59 8204 ED1F CC1C 53AF 4C41 5ECA F8B1 2CBC)
Current thread:
- Open Letter to D-Link about their NTP vandalism Etaoin Shrdlu (Apr 07)
- Re: Open Letter to D-Link about their NTP vandalism Rubens Kuhl Jr. (Apr 07)
- Re: Open Letter to D-Link about their NTP vandalism Jeff Shultz (Apr 07)
- Re: Open Letter to D-Link about their NTP vandalism Alain Hebert (Apr 07)
- Re: Open Letter to D-Link about their NTP vandalism Rubens Kuhl Jr. (Apr 07)
- Re: Open Letter to D-Link about their NTP vandalism Jeff Shultz (Apr 07)
- RE: Open Letter to D-Link about their NTP vandalism Mark Borchers (Apr 07)
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- Re: Which Cisco 7500 OS for high availability Alain Hebert (Apr 10)
- Re: Open Letter to D-Link about their NTP vandalism Jeff Shultz (Apr 07)
- Re: Open Letter to D-Link about their NTP vandalism Rubens Kuhl Jr. (Apr 07)
- Re: Open Letter to D-Link about their NTP vandalism Steven M. Bellovin (Apr 07)
- Re: Open Letter to D-Link about their NTP vandalism Richard A Steenbergen (Apr 07)
- Re: Open Letter to D-Link about their NTP vandalism Mark Boolootian (Apr 07)
- Re: Open Letter to D-Link about their NTP vandalism Kevin Day (Apr 07)
- Re: Open Letter to D-Link about their NTP vandalism Matt Ghali (Apr 07)
- Re: Open Letter to D-Link about their NTP vandalism Todd Vierling (Apr 07)
- Re: Open Letter to D-Link about their NTP vandalism Robert E . Seastrom (Apr 08)
- Re: Open Letter to D-Link about their NTP vandalism Suresh Ramasubramanian (Apr 08)