Re: Open Letter to D-Link about their NTP vandalism

["Alexei Roudnev" <alex () relcom net>]

It's legal to have broken NTP server in ANY country, and it's legal in most
(by number) countries to send counter-attack (except USA as usual, where
lawyers want to get their money and so do not allow people to self-defence).

So, it can be a GOOD prtactice in reality. But, of course, not in USA.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Dupuy" <jdupuy-list () socket net>
To: <nanog () nanog org>
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 9:00 AM
Subject: Re: Open Letter to D-Link about their NTP vandalism


> To keep this operational: Operationally the network operator should
> contact a lawyer before doing something like this.
>
> Purposely and knowingly sending bad data in order to do harm is a
> counter-attack. As such it might be vigilantism, which is illegal in
> most countries. Or it might be self-defense, which is not illegal.
> Might. Contact a lawyer.
>
> John
>
> At 07:36 PM 4/10/2006, Simon Lyall wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 10 Apr 2006 Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu wrote:
> > > One particular piece of crapware of the tucows archive variety would
retry
> > > once per second if it hadn't heard a response - but a ICMP Port
Unreachable
> > > would trigger an *immediate* query, so it would basically
> > re-query at whatever
> > > the RTT for the path was.
> >
> > I've said in other forums the only solution for this sort of software is
> > to return the wrong time (by several months). The owner might actually
> > notice then and fix the problem.
> >
> > Just not returning anything means the time still works on the querying
> > device (especially if it uses multiple servers) and the problem will not
> > be noticed and it will continue.
> >
> > --
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