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Re: Common Carrier Question
From: "Fergie" <fergdawg () netzero net>
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 01:36:52 GMT
Google it. And you're naive to you think its just VoIP anymore. The whole, nasty, underlying issue with 'network inequity' is that it is a bubble in its truest sense -- some infrastructure simply will not support tens of thousands, etc. unicast streams, AND also support traditional 'best effort' traffic. It's the old 'ten pounds of shite in a five pound bag' dilemma. Somethings gotta give ($) or something's gotta go ($) -- or be degraded somehow. Warnings on this were sounded ten (or more) years ago. :-) - ferg ps. Funny that -- the complexities of things these days vs. traditional recurring telco revenue streams. ;-) -- Alain Hebert <ahebert () pubnix net> wrote: Eric Germann wrote:
Except when an ISP blocks Vonage completely, then they aren't neutral and it is QoS (unless the QoS == 0 for VoIP)
We (or its just me) might be curious about which ISP did that. [snip] -- "Fergie", a.k.a. Paul Ferguson Engineering Architecture for the Internet fergdawg () netzero net or fergdawg () sbcglobal net ferg's tech blog: http://fergdawg.blogspot.com/
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- Re: Common Carrier Question, (continued)
- Re: Common Carrier Question Patrick W. Gilmore (Apr 13)
- RE: Common Carrier Question Eric Germann (Apr 13)
- Re: Common Carrier Question Alain Hebert (Apr 13)
- Re: Common Carrier Question Chris Woodfield (Apr 14)
- Re: Common Carrier Question Derek J. Balling (Apr 14)
- Re: Common Carrier Question david raistrick (Apr 14)
- Re: Common Carrier Question Sean Donelan (Apr 14)
- Re: Common Carrier Question Steven M. Bellovin (Apr 14)
- RE: Common Carrier Question Eric Germann (Apr 13)
- Re: Common Carrier Question Patrick W. Gilmore (Apr 13)
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