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Re: mitigating botnet C&Cs has become useless
From: Sean Donelan <sean () donelan com>
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 12:06:42 -0400 (EDT)
On Tue, 8 Aug 2006, Arjan Hulsebos wrote:
We (ISPs) already do have that power, we can disconnect misbehaving subscribers. And in cases like this, we should keep them off the 'net until they've cleaned up their PC.
Botnet C&Cs are not naturally occuring phenomena. Relying only on defensive security, and not arresting the criminals, will just result
in the criminals becoming bolder and more aggressive.In most cases ISPs are just taking action against innocent bystanders that got hit in the cross-fire. Those bystanders aren't the cause. If you let the criminals continue trying over and over again, you are just training them to become better shots. Telling your customers they should wear
bullet-proof vests whenever they go outside isn't going to stop snippers. Arresting the snipper is going to stop the snipper.
Current thread:
- Re: mitigating botnet C&Cs has become useless, (continued)
- Re: mitigating botnet C&Cs has become useless Mattias Ahnberg (Aug 03)
- Re: mitigating botnet C&Cs has become useless Arjan Hulsebos (Aug 08)
- Re: mitigating botnet C&Cs has become useless Simon Waters (Aug 08)
- Re: mitigating botnet C&Cs has become useless Mikael Abrahamsson (Aug 08)
- Re: mitigating botnet C&Cs has become useless Rick Wesson (Aug 08)
- Re: mitigating botnet C&Cs has become useless Mikael Abrahamsson (Aug 08)
- Re: mitigating botnet C&Cs has become useless Peter Dambier (Aug 08)
- Re: mitigating botnet C&Cs has become useless Sean Donelan (Aug 08)
- Re: mitigating botnet C&Cs has become useless Rick Wesson (Aug 08)
- Re: mitigating botnet C&Cs has become useless Sean Donelan (Aug 08)
- Re: mitigating botnet C&Cs has become useless Simon Waters (Aug 08)
- Re: mitigating botnet C&Cs has become useless Michael Loftis (Aug 09)
- Re: mitigating botnet C&Cs has become useless Danny McPherson (Aug 13)
- Re: mitigating botnet C&Cs has become useless Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr. (Aug 13)
- Re: mitigating botnet C&Cs has become useless Danny McPherson (Aug 13)
- Re: mitigating botnet C&Cs has become useless Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr. (Aug 13)
- Re: mitigating botnet C&Cs has become useless Sean Donelan (Aug 13)
- Re: mitigating botnet C&Cs has become useless Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr. (Aug 13)