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Re: ISP wants to stop outgoing web based spam


From: Florian Weimer <fw () deneb enyo de>
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 22:35:03 +0200


* Hank Nussbacher:

I guess I wasn't clear enough in my first posting.  I am not
interested in smtp (port 25 spam).  We have that covered.  I am only
interested in blocking outgoing web based spam.  A user sits and sends
out spam via automated tools via Hotmail, Yahoo, Gmail, or whatever
Webmail system where they have set up thousands of throwaway users.
An antispam proxy (that I want to install and manage) has to be able
to come between the user on his/her PC and the Hotmail system and scan
the http posts and page templates for things like number of receipents
and other tricks like keeping track of the number of http posts.  It
has to maintain a list of known free webmail systems that are abused.

Your are tackling this from the completely wrong angle, I think.

You should look after the automated tools (probably using a virus
scanner or something like this) and trigger a covert alert once they
are detected.  If the spam sent out is of the right kind, you can
phone the police and have the guy arrested.

This assumes that the miscreants actually visit the Internet cafe.  If
the spamming is purely malware-based and non-targeted, the spamming
problem simply disappears once you get rid of the malware problem.


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