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Re: shim6 @ NANOG
From: David Barak <thegameiam () yahoo com>
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 08:39:53 -0800 (PST)
--- Joe Abley <jabley () isc org> wrote:
On 28-Feb-2006, at 11:09, Kevin Day wrote:Some problems/issues that are solved by currentIPv4 TE practicesthat we are currently using, that we can't doeasily in Shim6: Just to be clear, are you speaking from the perspective of an access provider, or of an enterprise?
It's good to clarify that those are quite different requirement sets. One thing which Shim6 does not provide easily is the ability for an enterprise to have policy decisions made in a very limited number of places - for instance, a customer has two Internet pipes to two different providers to their DMZ. Right now, that means that BGP gets spoken by two routers (maybe four at most), and all external policy decisions happen there. By moving the decision-making to the hosts, it's possible to have different decisions being made on each of the 85 webservers being served by those two Internet pipes. "But each of the servers is optimizing the path for its own traffic" Correct, but what if there are other policy goals? I.e. "don't use pipe 2 unless pipe 1 is full/down, because it's more expensive" "only send low-jitter traffic to pipe-2" Whatever mechanism is selected, it needs to support an intermediate-system-based routing decision algorithm, not just an end-system-based approach. -David David Barak Need Geek Rock? Try The Franchise: http://www.listentothefranchise.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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- Re: shim6 @ NANOG (forwarded note from John Payne) Iljitsch van Beijnum (Feb 28)
- Re: shim6 @ NANOG (forwarded note from John Payne) Todd Vierling (Feb 28)
- Re: shim6 @ NANOG (forwarded note from John Payne) Iljitsch van Beijnum (Feb 28)
- Re: shim6 @ NANOG (forwarded note from John Payne) Kevin Day (Feb 28)
- Re: shim6 @ NANOG (forwarded note from John Payne) Joe Abley (Feb 28)
- Re: shim6 @ NANOG David Barak (Feb 28)
- Re: shim6 @ NANOG (forwarded note from John Payne) Kevin Day (Feb 28)
- Re: shim6 @ NANOG (forwarded note from John Payne) Joe Abley (Feb 28)
- Re: shim6 @ NANOG (forwarded note from John Payne) Joe Abley (Feb 28)
- Re: shim6 @ NANOG (forwarded note from John Payne) Iljitsch van Beijnum (Feb 28)
- Re: shim6 @ NANOG (forwarded note from John Payne) John Payne (Feb 28)
- Re: shim6 @ NANOG (forwarded note from John Payne) Iljitsch van Beijnum (Feb 28)
- Re: shim6 @ NANOG (forwarded note from John Payne) Kevin Day (Feb 28)
- Re: shim6 @ NANOG (forwarded note from John Payne) Daniel Golding (Feb 28)
- Re: shim6 @ NANOG (forwarded note from John Payne) Joe Abley (Feb 28)
- Re: shim6 @ NANOG (forwarded note from John Payne) Christian Kuhtz (Feb 28)
- Re: shim6 @ NANOG (forwarded note from John Payne) Joe Abley (Feb 28)
- Re: shim6 @ NANOG (forwarded note from John Payne) Todd Vierling (Feb 28)