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Re: So -- what did happen to Panix?
From: bmanning () vacation karoshi com
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 12:51:40 +0000
On Fri, Jan 27, 2006 at 04:36:28AM -0800, Randy Bush wrote:
what I saw by going through the diffs, etc.. that I have available to me is that the prefix was registered to be announced by our customer and hence made it into our automatic IRR filters.i.e., the 'error' was intended, and followed all process. so, what i don't see is how any hacks on routing, such as delay, history, ... will prevent this while not, at the same time, have very undesired effects on those legitimately changing isps. seems to me that certified validation of prefix ownership and as path are the only real way out of these problems that does not teach us the 42 reasons we use a *dynamic* protocol.
perhaps you mean certified validation of prefix origin and path. Ownership of any given prefix is a dicey concept at best. as a start, i'd want two things for authentication and integrity checks: AS P asserts it is the origin of prefix R and prefix R asserts the true origin AS is P (or Q or some list). Being able to check these assertions and being assured of the authenticity and integrity of the answers goes a long way, at least for me. path validation is something else and a worthwhile goal. --bill
what am i missing here? randy
Current thread:
- Re: So -- what did happen to Panix?, (continued)
- Re: So -- what did happen to Panix? Matt Buford (Jan 26)
- Re: So -- what did happen to Panix? Todd Underwood (Jan 26)
- Re: So -- what did happen to Panix? Jared Mauch (Jan 26)
- Re: So -- what did happen to Panix? Josh Karlin (Jan 26)
- Re: So -- what did happen to Panix? Jared Mauch (Jan 26)
- Re: So -- what did happen to Panix? Josh Karlin (Jan 26)
- Re: So -- what did happen to Panix? Randy Bush (Jan 26)
- Re: So -- what did happen to Panix? Jared Mauch (Jan 26)
- Re: So -- what did happen to Panix? william(at)elan.net (Jan 27)
- Re: So -- what did happen to Panix? Randy Bush (Jan 27)
- Re: So -- what did happen to Panix? bmanning (Jan 27)
- Re: So -- what did happen to Panix? Joe Abley (Jan 27)
- Re: So -- what did happen to Panix? bmanning (Jan 27)
- Re: So -- what did happen to Panix? Joe Abley (Jan 27)
- Re: So -- what did happen to Panix? Patrick W. Gilmore (Jan 27)
- Re: So -- what did happen to Panix? bmanning (Jan 27)
- Re: So -- what did happen to Panix? Jared Mauch (Jan 26)
- Re: So -- what did happen to Panix? Michael . Dillon (Jan 27)
- Re: So -- what did happen to Panix? Josh Karlin (Jan 27)
- Re: So -- what did happen to Panix? Stephen Sprunk (Jan 27)
- Re: So -- what did happen to Panix? Michael . Dillon (Jan 30)
- Re: So -- what did happen to Panix? Richard A Steenbergen (Jan 30)