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Re: So -- what did happen to Panix?
From: "Patrick W. Gilmore" <patrick () ianai net>
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 13:21:02 -0500
On Jan 27, 2006, at 12:57 PM, Joe Abley wrote:
On 27-Jan-2006, at 11:54, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:On Jan 27, 2006, at 8:29 AM, Michael.Dillon () btradianz com wrote:seems to me that certified validation of prefix ownership and as path are the only real way out of these problems that does not teach us the 42 reasons we use a *dynamic* protocol.Wouldn't a well-operated network of IRRs used by 95% of network operators be able to meet all three of your requirements?Maybe I missed something, but didn't Verio say the prefix was in their internal registry, and that's why it was accepted.Perhaps by "well-operated", Michael was referring to something like the hierarchical authentication scheme used by the RIPE database, which ultimately provides access control for route objects using RIR allocation/assignment data?
Yet it can still have stale data.That said, if there were a centralized store for such information and "you" were in charge of "your" objects, then the only person to blame when "your" prefix was incorrectly accepted would be "you". (We're talking things like accidental origination here, not malicious attempts to go around safeguards.)
Put more concretely, Panix would have no one to blame but themselves if Verio accepted a prefix because it was properly registered in the DB.
This, IMHO, would be a Good Thing.Not a panacea, but a Good Thing. And would avoid some very long threads on NANOG (which is also a Good Thing :).
-- TTFN, patrick
Current thread:
- Re: So -- what did happen to Panix?, (continued)
- Re: So -- what did happen to Panix? Michael . Dillon (Jan 30)
- Re: So -- what did happen to Panix? Richard A Steenbergen (Jan 30)
- MPLS vs PTP Andrew Staples (Jan 30)
- Re: MPLS vs PTP Jon Lewis (Jan 30)
- Re: MPLS vs PTP Michael . Dillon (Jan 31)
- RE: MPLS vs PTP Neil J. McRae (Jan 31)
- Re: MPLS vs PTP Michael Loftis (Jan 31)
- Re: MPLS vs PTP John Curran (Jan 31)
- Re: So -- what did happen to Panix? Patrick W. Gilmore (Jan 27)
- Re: So -- what did happen to Panix? Joe Abley (Jan 27)
- Re: So -- what did happen to Panix? Patrick W. Gilmore (Jan 27)
- Re: So -- what did happen to Panix? Michael . Dillon (Jan 30)
- Re: So -- what did happen to Panix? Todd Underwood (Jan 27)
- Re: So -- what did happen to Panix? Michael . Dillon (Jan 27)
- Re: So -- what did happen to Panix? Steven M. Bellovin (Jan 28)
- Re: So -- what did happen to Panix? Michael . Dillon (Jan 30)
- Re: So -- what did happen to Panix? Todd Underwood (Jan 27)