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Re: Sitefinder II, the sequel...
From: Larry Smith <lesmith () ecsis net>
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 10:35:22 -0500
On Thursday 13 July 2006 10:18, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
On Jul 13, 2006, at 10:48 AM, Christopher L. Morrow wrote:On Thu, 13 Jul 2006, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:That said, no one has yet said why it is necessary, or even desirable, to have a completely homogenous view of the world.I'd use one example reason of why: "Customer Service issues"Thanx, Chris, I was waiting for someone to give this answer. (And I couldn't figure out why no one had! :) I don't really have a good answer. I'm not sure it's a HUUUUUUGE problem, but I can see the argument. Perhaps someone associated with the service can give a better answer?In general inconsistency is troubling to folks, I think, and in recursive DNS it's especially difficult to see as 'good' since that 'service' is not universal (not all owned/operated by one entity). In the case of authoritative DNS though, you are (or anyone, not just Patrick) free to goof with responses as you (or anyone) see's fit... you are afterall 'authoritative' for the record. In the recursive land it may be viewed as 'rude' or 'out of spec' (perhaps this is paul's issue?) to fake answers to questions.Is it? If you type "fobar" and the domain does not exist, is it rude to return foobar? Or is it helpful?
Hmmm, while a "good" question - how about another example, someone mistypes whitehouse.gov - do you return the "real" whitehouse.gov or the whitehouse.com site ???
As a purist, I can see saying that's wrong. As a user, they like easy. Hell, most of them us Windows & Outlook, so they clearly don't care about things like "standards". Since they pay our bills, should we listen to them?
Also true, and while I agree in "principle", if you transpose only two numbers on your next deposit ticket - is it the banks responsibility to put the money in the correct account - or is it simply your mistake??
Can someone show the Internet is going to collapse, or at least be harmed, by being "rude" in this way?
I don't think the "net" is going to collapse, but I do think that many of the "things" being done are simply "making" (allowing/enabling/supporting) end users to be more and more lazy or what-ever term you want to apply. In school if you spell the word tree as tre - hopefully your teacher corrects this. What we seem to be doing is saying it is ok to not know how to spell or even know what or where you want to go on the net - and I am not certain that in the long term we are not doing more "harm" than good - just as your teacher would by allowing you to mis-spell words instead of learning the correct way.... -- Larry Smith SysAd ECSIS.NET sysad () ecsis net
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- Re: Sitefinder II, the sequel... Patrick W. Gilmore (Jul 11)
- RE: Sitefinder II, the sequel... Daniel Golding (Jul 11)
- Re: Sitefinder II, the sequel... Simon Waters (Jul 12)
- Re: Sitefinder II, the sequel... Patrick W. Gilmore (Jul 12)
- Re: Sitefinder II, the sequel... David Ulevitch (Jul 12)
- Re: Sitefinder II, the sequel... Simon Waters (Jul 13)
- Re: Sitefinder II, the sequel... Patrick W. Gilmore (Jul 13)
- Re: Sitefinder II, the sequel... Chris Woodfield (Jul 13)
- Re: Sitefinder II, the sequel... Christopher L. Morrow (Jul 13)
- Re: Sitefinder II, the sequel... Patrick W. Gilmore (Jul 13)
- Re: Sitefinder II, the sequel... Larry Smith (Jul 13)
- Re: Sitefinder II, the sequel... Mark Jeftovic (Jul 13)
- Re: Sitefinder II, the sequel... Christopher L. Morrow (Jul 13)
- Re: Sitefinder II, the sequel... Joe Greco (Jul 13)
- Re: Sitefinder II, the sequel... John Payne (Jul 13)
- Re: Sitefinder II, the sequel... Joe Greco (Jul 13)
- Re: Sitefinder II, the sequel... Barry Shein (Jul 13)
- Re: Sitefinder II, the sequel... Edward B. DREGER (Jul 14)
- RE: Sitefinder II, the sequel... Matthew Kaufman (Jul 13)
- Re: Sitefinder II, the sequel... Patrick W. Gilmore (Jul 13)
- Re: Sitefinder II, the sequel... Christopher L. Morrow (Jul 13)