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Re: Tor and network security/administration
From: Jeremy Chadwick <nanog () jdc parodius com>
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 14:53:06 -0700
On Wed, Jun 21, 2006 at 05:02:47PM -0400, Todd Vierling wrote:
If the point of the technology is to add a degree of anonymity, you can be pretty sure that a marker expressly designed to state the message "Hi, I'm anonymous!" will never be a standard feature of said technology. That's a pretty obvious non-starter.
Which begs the original question of this thread which I started: with that said, how exactly does one filter this technology? "You can't" doesn't make for a very practical solution, by the way. The same was said about BitTorrent (non-encrypted) when it came out, and the same is being said about encrypted BT (which has caused some ISPs to induce rate-limiting). I'm also left wondering something else, based on the "Legalities" Tor page. The justification seems to be that because no one's ever been sued for using Tor to, say, perform illegitimate transactions (Kevin's examples) or hack a server somewhere (via SSH or some other open service), that somehow "that speaks for itself". I don't know about the rest of the folks on NANOG, but telling a court "I run the Tor service by choice, but the packets that come out of my box aren't my responsibility", paraphrased, isn't going to save you from prison time (at least here in the US). Your box, your network port, your responsibility: period. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB |
Current thread:
- Re: Tor and network security/administration, (continued)
- Re: Tor and network security/administration Kevin Day (Jun 17)
- Re: Tor and network security/administration Lionel Elie Mamane (Jun 18)
- Re: Tor and network security/administration Todd Vierling (Jun 19)
- Re: Tor and network security/administration Lionel Elie Mamane (Jun 20)
- Re: Tor and network security/administration Todd Vierling (Jun 21)
- Re: Tor and network security/administration Lionel Elie Mamane (Jun 21)
- Re: Tor and network security/administration Kevin Day (Jun 21)
- Re: Tor and network security/administration Todd Vierling (Jun 21)
- Re: Tor and network security/administration Kevin Day (Jun 21)
- Re: Tor and network security/administration Lionel Elie Mamane (Jun 18)
- Re: Tor and network security/administration Todd Vierling (Jun 21)
- Re: Tor and network security/administration Jeremy Chadwick (Jun 21)
- Re: Tor and network security/administration Steve Atkins (Jun 21)
- Re: Tor and network security/administration Matthew Sullivan (Jun 21)
- Re: Tor and network security/administration Lionel Elie Mamane (Jun 22)
- Re: Tor and network security/administration Matthew Sullivan (Jun 22)
- Re: Tor and network security/administration Lionel Elie Mamane (Jun 22)
- Re: Tor and network security/administration Kevin Day (Jun 17)
- Re: Tor and network security/administration Todd Vierling (Jun 22)
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- Re: Tor and network security/administration Jeremy Chadwick (Jun 21)
- Re: Tor and network security/administration Lionel Elie Mamane (Jun 22)