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Re: 41/8 announcement
From: "Patrick W. Gilmore" <patrick () ianai net>
Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 09:14:02 -0400
On May 24, 2006, at 4:37 AM, Richard Mikisa wrote: [...]
>Turns out the folks at fastweb (Italy) NAT there adsl clients but >instead of using the rfc1918 space like most people, they use >unassigned>global /8s. Well 41/8 is one of there NATted allocations for Turin. No>amount of emails will get them to respond, calling isn't any better >as I >get only Italian speaking people at the other end. Any ideas out >there?Yes: you lose, sorry. :-) Many of their networking people are less than clueful, and I fear thatthey are not going to renumber a whole city just to let their customerscommunicate with a few African networks...
One of the points of NAT is to make renumbering easy. Silly them.I have a rule: Your network, your rules. If they want to be disconnected from Africa, you can't stop them. And they are not "hijacking" the /8, it is not announced on the 'Net. This is identical to a null route inside their ASN. I would never dream of telling them they cannot decide which netblocks should be routeable inside their own ASN.
Fortunately, I have another rule: My network, my rules. If someone can find the real addresses for FastWeb uses for the NAT pool and post it here (and other *NOG lists), networks can ensure that FastWeb's end users will be unable to communicate with a lot more than "a few African networks". I think the show of solidarity would be good for the 'Net.
-- TTFN, patrick
Current thread:
- Re: Fwd: 41/8 announcement, (continued)
- Re: Fwd: 41/8 announcement william(at)elan.net (May 25)
- Re: Fwd: 41/8 announcement Mikisa Richard (May 25)
- Re: Fwd: 41/8 announcement Bill Woodcock (May 26)
- Re: Fwd: 41/8 announcement william(at)elan.net (May 26)
- Re: Fwd: 41/8 announcement Bill Woodcock (May 26)
- Re: Fwd: 41/8 announcement Joseph S D Yao (May 26)
- Re: Fwd: 41/8 announcement Stephen Sprunk (May 26)
- Re: Fwd: 41/8 announcement Peter Corlett (May 30)
- Re: Fwd: 41/8 announcement Valdis . Kletnieks (May 30)
- Re: Fwd: 41/8 announcement steve (May 26)
- Re: 41/8 announcement Patrick W. Gilmore (May 24)
- Re: Fwd: 41/8 announcement Jon Lewis (May 27)