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Re: Need help explaining in-addr.arpa to Limelight


From: Joseph S D Yao <jsdy () center osis gov>
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 22:43:35 -0400


On Mon, Oct 23, 2006 at 09:13:03PM -0400, Edward Lewis wrote:

At 18:48 -0400 10/23/06, Joseph S D Yao wrote:

No, because in fact you can.  There is nothing magic about an
in-addr.arpa domain.

I'd say there is some magic.  Possibly.

There are conventions.  There is RFC 2317.  There is no magic.  ;-)

You can have subdomains neustar.16.154.156.in-addr.arpa and
lewis.0.127.in-addr.arpa.  You can have a pointer at
456.24.154.156.in-addr.arpa, much good it will do you.

The "magic" in reverse DNS is keeping it aligned properly with forward
DNS according to all the conventions we've established, including RFC
2317 - which, OBTW, explicitly allows for non-standard subdomains used
in reverse DNS.  How about 158.16.neustar.com?  ;-)

If an admin were granted the authority for a /25 worth of space, then 
you can't just delegate that part of the in-addr.arpa domain.  That's 
the RFC Joe Abley cited.

A /24 can be delegated (assuming we are talking about 255 addresses, 
from .0 to .255).  Perhaps, and this is weak speculation, the ISP in 
question is not used to SWIPing /24 and has an institutional policy 
of using RFC 2317 in all cases.

I've noticed of late less understanding of DNS in the people charged
with maintaining it out there.  Sad.

As far as the DNS protocol goes, there's nothing different between 
the forward and reverse.  But there are differences in the 
conventions used for placing data.


Yup.  ;-)


-- 
Joe Yao
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