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Re: Using RIR info to determine geographic location...
From: "Steven M. Bellovin" <smb () cs columbia edu>
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 22:17:36 -0500
On Fri, 21 Dec 2007 02:13:17 +0000 Greg Skinner <gds () best com> wrote:
Personally, I have trouble accepting some of the claims the geotargeting companies have made, such as Quova's 99.9% to the country level, and 95% to the US state level. ( More info at http://www.quova.com/page.php?id=132 ) Perhaps I'm just part of the outlying data; using the "three top search engines" I rarely see them get the city correct (ie. where *I* am physically located, as opposed to where the registration data says the block is located), and have seen some glaring errors for the country in some cases. Geotargeting has turned into quite a business, and I'm concerned that people who rely on these services do not fully understand the risks.
Some folks are relying on it for serious purposes. Many Internet gambling sites use it to avoid serving US customers, for example. Their risk is criminal liability for the executive -- the have a strong incentive to get reliable data... Some sports media sites use it to enforce local area blackouts; though that doesn't need to be perfect, if it's too imperfect they risk breach of contract and expensive lawsuits. For the advertisers, best effort is probably good enough... --Steve Bellovin, http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb
Current thread:
- Using RIR info to determine geographic location... Drew Weaver (Dec 19)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- Re: Using RIR info to determine geographic location... Paul Ferguson (Dec 19)
- Re: Using RIR info to determine geographic location... Hank Nussbacher (Dec 19)
- Re: Using RIR info to determine geographic location... Greg Skinner (Dec 20)
- Re: Using RIR info to determine geographic location... Steven M. Bellovin (Dec 20)
- Re: Using RIR info to determine geographic location... Greg Skinner (Dec 20)
- Re: Using RIR info to determine geographic location... James Hess (Dec 23)
- Geo IP collection / Data collection 101 (Re: Using RIR info to determine geographic location...) Jeroen Massar (Dec 23)
- Re: Using RIR info to determine geographic location... Marshall Eubanks (Dec 24)
- Re: Using RIR info to determine geographic location... Steven M. Bellovin (Dec 24)
- Re: Using RIR info to determine geographic location... Greg Skinner (Dec 20)