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Re: Best way to supply colo customer with specific provider
From: Keith <keith () pando com>
Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2007 11:25:57 -0500
Just curious, the customer wants to purchase cogent bandwidth through you instead of going directly?
Wouldn't it be easier just to have Cogent run another connection to the Meet Me Room in your facility and just extend it to their cage or rack?
This seems like a lot of over engineering to me to provide a customer with Cogent bandwidth.
Andrew Gristina wrote:
another way is tunnel them to a border router that interfaces with Cogent and deal with it at the border router. QinQ tunnel, GRE, IPSec, or whatever tunnel type you can support and will service the type of traffic your customer needs (L2 or L3). If you have multiple Cogent connections you might even be able to DMVPN to the relevant points. MPLS is another elegant way to handle it, but if you have MPLS infrastructure, you probably would have said so. --- Steve Gibbard <scg () gibbard org> wrote:If you actually want to do this, you've got four choices: - Policy route, as mentioned below. - Get the customer their own connection to Cogent. - Have a border router that only talks to Cogent and doesn't receive full routes from your core, and connect the customer directly to that. - Do something involving route servers and switches outside your border routers, a-la-Equinix Direct. The policy routing idea will work, for somedefinition of work. I forget whether Cisco now has a fast (non-processor-switched) path for policy routed traffic; they didn't yet when somebody convinced me to try this many years ago. If nothing else, it will make a mess of configuration and troubleshooting.Getting the customer their own Cogent connection islikely the least trouble, but may not save you as much on the bandwidth cost as aggregating the customer's traffic into the rest of your trafficwould. Connecting the customer to a Cogent-only borderrouter works fine if you already have such a border router. If not, it may require significant reengineering.The route server suggestion is thrown out mainly asa conceptual exercise. It would require a lot of design work.All that said, if you're paying your engineers andoperations people developed world salaries, and paying major well-connected city bandwidth rates, none of these suggestions should make your accountants or your customer's accountants happy. You'll be saving a bit on bandwidth costs while putting in large amounts of engineering time that at best will do nothing useful for your other customers. Any way you do this, you'll probably find that it costs you considerably more than it would to give the customer your standard product.-Steve On Tue, 30 Jan 2007, Rick Kunkel wrote:Hello all, Being relatively new to the colocation business,we run into a fair numberof issues that we've never run into before. Got anew one today, andalthough I can think of kludgey ways to accomplishwhat he wants, I'drather get some other ideas first... We just had our first customer that's requestingbandwidth exclusivelythrough a particular provider of ours (Cogent) atless expensive pricing.The money people here are up for it, butobviously, they want to make surethat he's confined to that Cogent connection. So now of course we're attempting to figure outthe best way to do this,and I figured that rather than reinventing thewheel, I'd check to see howothers accomplish things like this. The way I can imagine doing it is by usingroute-maps to steer all of thiscustomer's traffic out the Cogent pipe, andmodifying our BGPannouncements by AS prepending on whatever blockor blocks we set aside tobe "Cogent-exclusive". Again though, this seems to me to lack a certainamount of, for lack of abetter word, "grace". Any other suggestions? Thanks, Rick Kunkel____________________________________________________________________________________Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/
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