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Re: botnets: web servers, end-systems and Vint Cerf


From: Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 06:54:38 -0500

On Fri, 16 Feb 2007 03:55:58 EST, Sean Donelan said:
On Fri, 16 Feb 2007, Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu wrote:
And most ISPs don't provide in-house tech support and an orientation lecture
when you sign up - though some *do* provide the free A/V these days. :)

Working a day on the help desk at the *other* ISPs, which ever ISP you
want to point fingers at, is always an eye-opening experience.

I hear enough from people who *do* work at Some Other Place. :)

Even when you think things should be the same, they sometimes have very
different problems to solve.

Never claimed *our* solution would work everywhere (heck, I even admit it
isn't 100% effective for *us*).  A very large chunk of what *we* do would be
doomed to failure at any organization where the problem set includes "make a
profit selling connectivity to cost-conscious general consumers".

I just often wish Vint's 140 million would switch to Some Other ISP where
the traffic I see from them didn't cause operational issues for *my*
organization. (And yes, that was carefully phrased - there's multiple
solutions that work for customer and ISP *and* get them off my radar. But
there's no *single* workable solution.)



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