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Re: botnets: web servers, end-systems and Vint Cerf
From: Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 06:54:38 -0500
On Fri, 16 Feb 2007 03:55:58 EST, Sean Donelan said:
On Fri, 16 Feb 2007, Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu wrote:And most ISPs don't provide in-house tech support and an orientation lecture when you sign up - though some *do* provide the free A/V these days. :)Working a day on the help desk at the *other* ISPs, which ever ISP you want to point fingers at, is always an eye-opening experience.
I hear enough from people who *do* work at Some Other Place. :)
Even when you think things should be the same, they sometimes have very different problems to solve.
Never claimed *our* solution would work everywhere (heck, I even admit it isn't 100% effective for *us*). A very large chunk of what *we* do would be doomed to failure at any organization where the problem set includes "make a profit selling connectivity to cost-conscious general consumers". I just often wish Vint's 140 million would switch to Some Other ISP where the traffic I see from them didn't cause operational issues for *my* organization. (And yes, that was carefully phrased - there's multiple solutions that work for customer and ISP *and* get them off my radar. But there's no *single* workable solution.)
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