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Re: Routing public traffic across county boundaries in Europe
From: Arien Vijn <arien+nanog () ams-ix net>
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 12:33:46 +0200
On Jul 27, 2007, at 6:14 AM, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: [...]
(And I've repeatedly heard that in the Netherlands, for some time in the past atleast, the way the ISPs got rid of the lawful intercept obligation was to have the AMS-IX send a copy of *all* the traffic to the government black box. Not that they had to do that, but it was the easiest / cheapest way.)
[...] That is complete and utter nonsens. That never ever happend.As everybody can see in the public member list [1] on the AMS-IX website, the Dutch police (AS16147) is connected via 100Mbit/s port. They are just another member, nothing more nothing less.
Encrypted and signed tapped traffic from lawful interceptions may be send from the Dutch ISPs to the police via peering. That traffic may go over AMS-IX indeed. The Dutch ISP are obligated to apply these taps on *access-lines* after some form of legal order. They have to have the the right procedures and equipment to do that (at their own costs) [2].
-- Arien -- Arien Vijn Amsterdam Internet Exchange [1] http://www.ams-ix.net/connected/?expanded=1[2] (In Dutch) http://www.agentschap-telecom.nl/informatie/aftappen/ paginas/faq.html
Current thread:
- Routing public traffic across county boundaries in Europe Andy Loukes (Jul 26)
- RE: Routing public traffic across county boundaries in Europe Randy Epstein (Jul 26)
- Re: Routing public traffic across county boundaries in Europe Lionel Elie Mamane (Jul 26)
- Re: Routing public traffic across county boundaries in Europe Alexander Harrowell (Jul 27)
- Re: Routing public traffic across county boundaries in Europe Arien Vijn (Jul 27)
- Re: Routing public traffic across county boundaries in Europe Barry Shein (Jul 27)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- Re: Routing public traffic across county boundaries in Europe Scott Weeks (Jul 26)
- Re: Routing public traffic across county boundaries in Europe Scott Francis (Jul 26)
- Re: Routing public traffic across county boundaries in Europe Miquel van Smoorenburg (Jul 26)
- Re: Routing public traffic across county boundaries in Europe Sam Stickland (Jul 27)
- Re: Routing public traffic across county boundaries in Europe Scott Weeks (Jul 27)