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Re: dns authority changes and lame servers


From: Andrew Sullivan <andrew () ca afilias info>
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 17:20:46 -0400


On Thu, Oct 18, 2007 at 12:27:35PM -0600, Mike Lewinski wrote:

I find it exceptionally annoying that there is no process whereby the 
root servers and/or registrars can inform us of new/modified/removed 
delegations. 

Why can't you just query the other side of the zone cut once a
day/week/month/youpick and compare the NS set from the delegating
side to the NS set you have as the presumed authority side?  That
combined with a bit of information only you would have about which of
your mismatches are changes you're currently managing, and which are
surprises, would surely give you the data you need?

At the same time, I'll point out that registries, at least, are under
some pressure not to release too much information about this sort of
thing.  Nevertheless, various third parties are obtaining regular
zone snapshots, and then making some sort of business out of their
conclusions from the zone data.  I'd (personally, not speaking for my
employer) love to be able to offer such services, but any time a
registry operator suggests anything of the sort, people get angry.

To answer specific questions:

1) Does anyone else find this flaw in the DNS system as annoying as I 
do? 

I don't think this is a "flaw in the DNS system" as much as it is a
consequence of the funny economics currently on display among domain
name registrars, DNS operators, and ISPs.

2) Does anyone have a better way of cleaning out the dreck than some 
home-grown scripts? 

If you pay someone else to operate your DNS, then you get to offload
the dreck-cleaning to them!  But other than that, no.

Best regards,
A

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