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Re: Comcast blocking p2p uploads
From: William Allen Simpson <william.allen.simpson () gmail com>
Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 07:36:59 -0400
Mikael Abrahamsson wrote:
I cannot access relevant pages on www.comcast.com due to me not being in the US (or rather, they require an address first), could anyone please paste or other way supply the wording/text they use in their fineprint, to allow them contractually to disrupt customer TCP session in other way than delaying or dropping the packets (which I guess is accepted industry standard).Sending/spoofing RST on certain customer TCP sessions doesn't qualify as normal network behaviour in my mind, so would be interesting to hear how they word it legally.
They don't, Comcast is egregiously in violation of their own AUP! http://www.comcast.net/terms/use.jsp vii. restrict, inhibit, or otherwise interfere with the ability of any other person, regardless of intent, purpose or knowledge, to use or enjoy the Service, including, without limitation, posting or transmitting any information or software which contains a worm, virus, or other harmful feature, or generating levels of traffic sufficient to impede others' ability to send or retrieve information; vii. restrict, inhibit, interfere with, or otherwise disrupt or cause a performance degradation, regardless of intent, purpose or knowledge, to the Service or any Comcast (or Comcast supplier) host, server, backbone network, node or service, or otherwise cause a performance degradation to any Comcast (or Comcast supplier) facilities used to deliver the Service; ... xxii. interfere with computer networking or telecommunications service to any user, host or network, .... ---- I'm on the horn to my legislators.... As a Comcast customer at home, I'll be looking into my legal position regarding "tortuous interference". As an ISP owner, I'm not as sure about my standing, but also seems that they are interfering with "service to any user, host or network".
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- Re: Comcast blocking p2p uploads, (continued)
- Re: Comcast blocking p2p uploads Patrick W. Gilmore (Oct 19)
- Re: Comcast blocking p2p uploads Curtis Doty (Oct 19)
- Re: Comcast blocking p2p uploads Jeroen Massar (Oct 19)
- Re: Comcast blocking p2p uploads Marshall Eubanks (Oct 19)
- Re: Comcast blocking p2p uploads Joel Jaeggli (Oct 19)
- Re: Comcast blocking p2p uploads Curtis Doty (Oct 19)
- Re: Comcast blocking p2p uploads Eric Spaeth (Oct 19)
- Re: Comcast blocking p2p uploads Sean Figgins (Oct 19)
- Re: Comcast blocking p2p uploads Eric Spaeth (Oct 19)
- Re: Comcast blocking p2p uploads Sean Figgins (Oct 19)
- Re: Comcast blocking p2p uploads Gadi Evron (Oct 19)
- Re: Comcast blocking p2p uploads Mikael Abrahamsson (Oct 20)
- Re: Comcast blocking p2p uploads William Allen Simpson (Oct 20)
- Re: Comcast blocking p2p uploads Daniel Senie (Oct 20)
- Re: Comcast blocking p2p uploads Steven M. Bellovin (Oct 20)
- Re: Comcast blocking p2p uploads Marshall Eubanks (Oct 20)
- Re: Comcast blocking p2p uploads William Allen Simpson (Oct 20)
- RE: Comcast blocking p2p uploads Eric Lutvak (Oct 19)
- RE: Comcast blocking p2p uploads Justin M. Streiner (Oct 19)
- RE: Comcast blocking p2p uploads Andrew Odlyzko (Oct 19)
- Re: Comcast blocking p2p uploads Patrick W. Gilmore (Oct 19)