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Re: Internet access in Japan (was Re: BitTorrent swarms have a deadly bite on broadband nets)
From: Chris Adams <cmadams () hiwaay net>
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 23:06:04 -0500
Once upon a time, David Andersen <dga () cs cmu edu> said:
But no - I was as happy as everyone else when the CLECs emerged and provided PRI service at 1/3rd the rate of the ILECs
Not only was that CLEC service concetrated in higher-density areas, the PRI prices were often not based in reality. There were a bunch of CLECs with dot.com-style business plans (and they're no longer around). Lucent was practically giving away switches and switch management (and lost big $$$ because of it). CLECs also sold PRIs to ISPs based on reciprocal compensation contracts with the ILECs that were based on incorrect assumptions (that most calls would be from the CLEC to the ILEC); rates based on that were bound to increase as those contracts expired. Back when dialup was king, CLECs selling cheap PRIs to ISPs seemed like a sure-fire way to print money. -- Chris Adams <cmadams () hiwaay net> Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble.
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- Re: BitTorrent swarms have a deadly bite on broadband nets Adrian Chadd (Oct 23)
- Re: BitTorrent swarms have a deadly bite on broadband nets Mikael Abrahamsson (Oct 22)
- Re: BitTorrent swarms have a deadly bite on broadband nets Valdis . Kletnieks (Oct 22)
- Re: BitTorrent swarms have a deadly bite on broadband nets Sean Donelan (Oct 23)
- RE: BitTorrent swarms have a deadly bite on broadband nets Frank Bulk (Oct 22)
- Re: BitTorrent swarms have a deadly bite on broadband nets Leo Bicknell (Oct 22)
- Internet access in Japan (was Re: BitTorrent swarms have a deadly bite on broadband nets) David Andersen (Oct 22)
- Re: Internet access in Japan (was Re: BitTorrent swarms have a deadly bite on broadband nets) Jeff Shultz (Oct 22)
- Re: Internet access in Japan (was Re: BitTorrent swarms have a deadly bite on broadband nets) David Andersen (Oct 22)
- Re: Internet access in Japan (was Re: BitTorrent swarms have a deadly bite on broadband nets) Chris Adams (Oct 22)
- Re: Internet access in Japan (was Re: BitTorrent swarms have a deadly bite on broadband nets) Dragos Ruiu (Oct 22)
- Re: Internet access in Japan (was Re: BitTorrent swarms have a deadly bite on broadband nets) Tom Vest (Oct 23)
- RE: Internet access in Japan (was Re: BitTorrent swarms have a deadly bite on broadband nets) Rod Beck (Oct 23)
- Re: Internet access in Japan (was Re: BitTorrent swarms have a deadly bite on broadband nets) Tom Vest (Oct 23)
- Re: Internet access in Japan (was Re: BitTorrent swarms have a deadly bite on broadband nets) Joe Greco (Oct 24)
- Re: Internet access in Japan (was Re: BitTorrent swarms have a deadly bite on broadband nets) Leo Bicknell (Oct 23)
- Re: Internet access in Japan (was Re: BitTorrent swarms have a deadly bite on broadband nets) Tom Vest (Oct 23)
- neighborhood densities (was: Internet Access in Japan, was: something else) David Barak (Oct 23)
- Re: Internet access in Japan (was Re: BitTorrent swarms have a deadly bite on broadband nets) Henry Yen (Oct 24)
- Re: Internet access in Japan (was Re: BitTorrent swarms have a deadly bite on broadband nets) Larry Smith (Oct 24)