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Re: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks?
From: Sean Donelan <sean () donelan com>
Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 14:33:56 -0400 (EDT)
On Fri, 26 Oct 2007, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote:
If Comcast had used Sandvine's other capabilities to inspect and drop particular packets, would that have been more acceptable?Yes, definately.
So another in-line device is better than an out-of-band device.
... but terminating the connection is not. Spoofing packets is not something an ISP should do. Ever. Dropping and/or delaying packets, yes, spoofing, no.
So ISPs should not do any NAT, transparent accelerators, transparent web caches, walled gardens for infected computers, etc.
We seem to agree that ISPs can "intefere" with network traffic, the debate is only how they do it.
Current thread:
- Re: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks?, (continued)
- Re: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks? Sean Donelan (Oct 25)
- Re: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks? Marshall Eubanks (Oct 25)
- Re: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks? Sean Donelan (Oct 25)
- Re: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks? Mikael Abrahamsson (Oct 25)
- Re: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks? Sam Stickland (Oct 26)
- RE: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks? Sean Donelan (Oct 25)
- Re: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks? Iljitsch van Beijnum (Oct 26)
- Re: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks? Geo. (Oct 26)
- Re: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks? Sean Donelan (Oct 26)
- Re: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks? Mikael Abrahamsson (Oct 26)
- Re: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks? Sean Donelan (Oct 26)
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- Re: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks? Sean Donelan (Oct 27)
- Re: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks? Mikael Abrahamsson (Oct 28)
- Re: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks? Sean Donelan (Oct 28)
- Re: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks? Mikael Abrahamsson (Oct 28)
- Re: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks? Sean Donelan (Oct 28)
- RE: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks? michael.dillon (Oct 29)
- Re: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks? Stefan Bethke (Oct 29)
- RE: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks? Fred Reimer (Oct 29)
- RE: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks? Sean Donelan (Oct 29)
- RE: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks? Fred Reimer (Oct 29)