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Re: Yahoo Mail Update
From: "Suresh Ramasubramanian" <ops.lists () gmail com>
Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 18:19:50 +0530
On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 3:57 PM, Rob Szarka <szlists () szarka org> wrote:
True, though some aspects of mail service are inextricably tied to broader networking issues, and thus participation here might still benefit them. But sadly Yahoo doesn't even seem to participate in more relevant forums, such as the spam-l list.
There are other lists, far more relevant than spam-l or nanae. There's a way to present spam issues and mail filtering operationally.. and I see it all the time at MAAWG meetings, just for example. The issue here is that 90% of the comments on a thread related to this are from people who might be wizards at packet pushing, but cant filter spam. Or on mailserver lists you might find people who can write sendmail.cf from scratch instead of building it from a .mc file and still dont know about the right way to do spam filtering.
When what the larger companies do enables criminal behavior that impacts the very viability of the smaller companies through de factor DoS attacks, it's not funny at all. Yahoo, for example, has chosen a business model (free email with little to no verification) that inevitably leads to spam being originated from their systems. Why should they be able to shift the cost of their business model to me, just because I run a much smaller business?
So has hotmail, so have several of the domains that we host. srs -- Suresh Ramasubramanian (ops.lists () gmail com)
Current thread:
- Re: Problems sending mail to yahoo?, (continued)
- Re: Problems sending mail to yahoo? Edward B. DREGER (Apr 10)
- Re: Problems sending mail to yahoo? Edward B. DREGER (Apr 10)
- Re: Problems sending mail to yahoo? Jeff Shultz (Apr 10)
- RE: Problems sending mail to yahoo? Raymond L. Corbin (Apr 10)
- Yahoo Mail Update Jared Mauch (Apr 10)
- Re: Yahoo Mail Update chuck goolsbee (Apr 10)
- RE: Yahoo Mail Update Raymond L. Corbin (Apr 10)
- Re: Yahoo Mail Update Rich Kulawiec (Apr 10)
- Re: Yahoo Mail Update Ross (Apr 12)
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- Re: Yahoo Mail Update Rob Szarka (Apr 13)
- Re: Yahoo Mail Update Suresh Ramasubramanian (Apr 13)
- Re: Yahoo Mail Update Joel Jaeggli (Apr 13)
- Re: Yahoo Mail Update Suresh Ramasubramanian (Apr 13)
- Message not available
- Re: Yahoo Mail Update Rob Szarka (Apr 13)
- RE: Problems sending mail to yahoo? Raymond L. Corbin (Apr 10)
- Re: Yahoo Mail Update Ross (Apr 13)
- RE: Yahoo Mail Update Frank Bulk - iNAME (Apr 14)
- Re: Yahoo Mail Update JC Dill (Apr 15)
- Re: Yahoo Mail Update Martin Hannigan (Apr 13)
- Re: Yahoo Mail Update Suresh Ramasubramanian (Apr 13)
- Re: Yahoo Mail Update Rich Kulawiec (Apr 13)
- Re: Yahoo Mail Update Ross (Apr 13)