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Re: Public shaming list for ISPs announcing other ISPs IP space bymistake
From: David Conrad <drc () virtualized org>
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 12:29:59 -0700
On Aug 14, 2008, at 12:15 PM, <michael.dillon () bt com> <michael.dillon () bt com > wrote:
And here I thought IANA handed out ASnums and IP address blocks to ARIN (and RIPE and LACNIC and AfriNIC and APNIC and the IETF for specific protocol requirements)...We are talking Internet operations, not Internet politics.
Indeed.
People don't care where the numbers came from, they care who actually got the rights to use them, and then what those orgs did with the rights, i.e. an IP addr block owner may delegate the rights to announce a subset of their space to a specific ASnum holder.
Yep. And as with DNSSEC, you, as a network operator, get a choice. You can configure a single trust anchor corresponding to the actual address allocation flow and follow a chain of authority down to the leaf (end user or ISP) allocation or you can configure a number of trust anchors and figure out how to deal with cross-certifications resulting from the multiple roots. Ignoring politics, the technically and architecturally cleaner approach is obvious to me. However, as I mentioned, it is challenging to ignore the layer 9 politics.
Regards, -drc
Current thread:
- Re: Public shaming list for ISPs announcing other ISPs IP space by mistake, (continued)
- Re: Public shaming list for ISPs announcing other ISPs IP space by mistake Anton Kapela (Aug 14)
- Re: Public shaming list for ISPs announcing other ISPs IP space by mistake David Conrad (Aug 14)
- Re: Public shaming list for ISPs announcing other ISPs IP space by mistake Danny McPherson (Aug 14)
- Re: Public shaming list for ISPs announcing other ISPs IP space by mistake David Conrad (Aug 14)
- Re: Public shaming list for ISPs announcing other ISPs IP space by mistake Danny McPherson (Aug 14)
- Validating rights to announce a prefix (was: Public shaming...) michael.dillon (Aug 15)
- Re: Validating rights to announce a prefix Robert Kisteleki (Aug 15)
- RE: Public shaming list for ISPs announcing other ISPs IP space bymistake michael.dillon (Aug 14)
- Re: Public shaming list for ISPs announcing other ISPs IP space bymistake David Conrad (Aug 14)
- RE: Public shaming list for ISPs announcing other ISPs IP space bymistake michael.dillon (Aug 14)
- Re: Public shaming list for ISPs announcing other ISPs IP space bymistake David Conrad (Aug 14)
- Re: Public shaming list for ISPs announcing other ISPs IP space bymistake Jean-François Mezei (Aug 14)
- Re: Public shaming list for ISPs announcing other ISPs IP space bymistake Steven M. Bellovin (Aug 14)
- Re: Public shaming list for ISPs announcing other ISPs IP space bymistake Danny McPherson (Aug 14)
- Re: Public shaming list for ISPs announcing other ISPs IP space bymistake Mikael Abrahamsson (Aug 14)
- Re: Public shaming list for ISPs announcing other ISPs IP space bymistake Danny McPherson (Aug 14)
- Re: Public shaming list for ISPs announcing other ISPs IP space by mistake David Freedman (Aug 14)
- Re: Public shaming list for ISPs announcing other ISPs IP space by mistake Randy Bush (Aug 14)
- Re: Public shaming list for ISPs announcing other ISPs IP space by mistake brett watson (Aug 14)
- Re: Public shaming list for ISPs announcing other ISPs IP space by mistake Jared Mauch (Aug 14)
- Re: Public shaming list for ISPs announcing other ISPs IP space by mistake Danny McPherson (Aug 14)