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RE: It's Ars Tech's turn to bang the IPv4 exhaustion drum


From: "TJ" <trejrco () gmail com>
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:43:20 -0400

-----Original Message-----
From: Justin M. Streiner [mailto:streiner () cluebyfour org]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 5:29 PM
To: Iljitsch van Beijnum
Cc: nanog () nanog org
Subject: Re: It's Ars Tech's turn to bang the IPv4 exhaustion drum

On Mon, 18 Aug 2008, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote:

On 18 aug 2008, at 21:18, Justin M. Streiner wrote:

Just because IPv6 provides boatloads more space doesn't mean that I
like wasting addresses :)

That kind of thinking can easily lead you in the wrong direction.

For instance, hosting businesses that cater to small customers
generally have a lot of problems with their IPv4 address provisioning:
for a customer that only needs one or a few IPv4 addresses, it's not
feasible to create a separate subnet, because that wastes a lot of
addresses. But invariably, these customers on shared subnets grow, so
over time the logical subnet gathers more and more IPv4 address blocks
that are shared by a relatively large number of customers, and because
of resistance to renumbering, it's impossible to fix this later on.

I don't have a problem with assigning customers a /64 of v6 space.  My
earlier comments were focused on network infrastructure comprised of mainly
point-to-point links with statically assigned interface addresses.  In that
case, provisioning point-to-point links much larger than a /126, or at the
maximum a /120 seems rather wasteful and doesn't make much sense.

Actually, in most cases - you would assign customers more than a /64.
*Hopefully* a /56 as the smallest ... ~/48 for enterprises ... 



jms

/TJ



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