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Re: Revealed: The Internet's well known BGP behavior
From: Gadi Evron <ge () linuxbox org>
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 13:30:19 -0500 (CDT)
Thank you for making your presentation. Gadi. On Thu, 28 Aug 2008, Anton Kapela wrote:
I thought I'd toss in a few comments, considering it's my fault that few people are understanding this thing yet.On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 2:28 PM, Gadi Evron <ge () linuxbox org> wrote:People (especially spammers) have been hijacking networks for a whileI'd like to 'clear the air' here. Clearly, I failed at Defcon, WIRED, AFP, and Forbes. We all know sub-prefix hijacking is not news. What is news? Using as-path loop detection to selectively blackhole the hijacked route - which creates a transport path _back to_ the target. That's all it is, nothing more. All but the WIRED follow-up article missed this point *completely.* They over-represented the 'hijacking' aspects, while only making mention of the 'interception' potential. Lets end this thread with the point I had intended two weeks ago: we've presented a method by which all the theory spewed by academics can be actualized in a real network (the big-I internet) to effect interception of data between (nearly) arbitrary endpoints from (nearly) any edge or stub AS. That, I think, is interesting. -Tk
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- RE: Revealed: The Internet's well known BGP behavior, (continued)
- RE: Revealed: The Internet's well known BGP behavior Jon Lewis (Aug 27)
- Re: Revealed: The Internet's well known BGP behavior Eric Spaeth (Aug 27)
- Re: Revealed: The Internet's well known BGP behavior Colin Alston (Aug 27)
- Re: Revealed: The Internet's well known BGP behavior Gadi Evron (Aug 28)
- Re: Revealed: The Internet's well known BGP behavior Suresh Ramasubramanian (Aug 28)
- Re: Revealed: The Internet's well known BGP behavior Patrick W. Gilmore (Aug 28)
- Re: Revealed: The Internet's well known BGP behavior Anton Kapela (Aug 28)
- Re: Revealed: The Internet's well known BGP behavior Steven M. Bellovin (Aug 28)
- Re: Revealed: The Internet's well known BGP behavior Joe Greco (Aug 28)
- Re: Revealed: The Internet's well known BGP behavior Randy Bush (Aug 28)
- Re: Revealed: The Internet's well known BGP behavior Gadi Evron (Aug 28)
- Re: Revealed: The Internet's well known BGP behavior Alex Pilosov (Aug 28)
- Re: Revealed: The Internet's well known BGP behavior Deepak Jain (Aug 28)
- Re: Revealed: The Internet's well known BGP behavior Danny McPherson (Aug 28)
- Re: Revealed: The Internet's well known BGP behavior Florian Weimer (Aug 29)
- Re: Revealed: The Internet's well known BGP behavior jim deleskie (Aug 29)
- Re: Revealed: The Internet's well known BGP behavior Adrian Chadd (Aug 29)
- Re: Revealed: The Internet's well known BGP behavior jim deleskie (Aug 29)
- Re: Revealed: The Internet's well known BGP behavior Patrick W. Gilmore (Aug 29)
- Re: Revealed: The Internet's well known BGP behavior jim deleskie (Aug 30)
- Re: Revealed: The Internet's well known BGP behavior isabel dias (Aug 30)