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Re: Netblock reassigned from Chile to US ISP...
From: Martin List-Petersen <martin () airwire ie>
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 23:56:46 +0000
Owen DeLong wrote:
On Dec 12, 2008, at 3:14 PM, Nathan Stratton wrote:On Fri, 12 Dec 2008, Joe Abley wrote:On 2008-12-12, at 15:02, Martin List-Petersen wrote:It's a misconception of some muppets, especially in IT related products, that forget, that a lot or IT professionals do travel all over the world and usually have a credit card in their home country. Pure and utter nonsense.Or perhaps the hassle of dealing with stolen US credit card numbers from clients outside the US costs far more money than you could hope to make back with the purchases of US nationals travelling overseas? Could well be muppets, but surely there are other possibilities.Sad but true, we have had to turn off signups outside the US because of that very problem. Yes, I am sure we lose some sales, but in general it is not worth the fraud costs.Why don't the fraudsters just use Open US Proxies?
You can be sure, that the people wanting to defraud merchants know all these tricks and use them. The verified by visa password option is a far better solution, but I've not seen many US merchants supporting that yet. Instead they're relying on outdated geoip data or ask people to fax a copy of their credit card. /Martin -- Airwire - Ag Nascadh Pobal an Iarthar http://www.airwire.ie Phone: 091-865 968
Current thread:
- Re: Netblock reassigned from Chile to US ISP..., (continued)
- Re: Netblock reassigned from Chile to US ISP... Robert Tarrall (Dec 11)
- Re: Netblock reassigned from Chile to US ISP... Randy Bush (Dec 11)
- Re: Netblock reassigned from Chile to US ISP... John Curran (Dec 11)
- RE: Netblock reassigned from Chile to US ISP... Frank Bulk (Dec 12)
- Re: Netblock reassigned from Chile to US ISP... Nicolas Antoniello (Dec 12)
- Re: Netblock reassigned from Chile to US ISP... Jim Popovitch (Dec 12)
- Re: Netblock reassigned from Chile to US ISP... Martin List-Petersen (Dec 12)
- Re: Netblock reassigned from Chile to US ISP... Joe Abley (Dec 12)
- Re: Netblock reassigned from Chile to US ISP... Nathan Stratton (Dec 12)
- Re: Netblock reassigned from Chile to US ISP... Owen DeLong (Dec 12)
- Re: Netblock reassigned from Chile to US ISP... Martin List-Petersen (Dec 12)
- RE: Netblock reassigned from Chile to US ISP... Tomas L. Byrnes (Dec 12)
- Re: Netblock reassigned from Chile to US ISP... Martin Hannigan (Dec 12)
- Re: Netblock reassigned from Chile to US ISP... Randy Bush (Dec 12)
- Re: Netblock reassigned from Chile to US ISP... Paul Ferguson (Dec 12)
- Re: Netblock reassigned from Chile to US ISP... Randy Bush (Dec 12)
- Re: Netblock reassigned from Chile to US ISP... Paul Ferguson (Dec 12)
- Re: Netblock reassigned from Chile to US ISP... Randy Bush (Dec 12)
- Re: Netblock reassigned from Chile to US ISP... Paul Ferguson (Dec 12)
- Re: Netblock reassigned from Chile to US ISP... Robert Tarrall (Dec 11)
- Re: Netblock reassigned from Chile to US ISP... James Hess (Dec 13)
- Re: Netblock reassigned from Chile to US ISP... Steven M. Bellovin (Dec 13)