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Re: YouTube IP Hijacking


From: "Josh Karlin" <karlinjf () cs unm edu>
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 11:38:41 -0700

Tomas:

It's primarily a proof of concept site, to show that such an idea would be
useful, but it has been running for over a year now and discovered many
interesting hijacks (such as eBay/google/etc..).

You're right that there is a glaring ommission, which is yesterday's youtube
hijack.  This is due to a bug in the sub-prefix lookup code (which can cause
the IAR to miss some sub-prefix hijacks), which I'm currently fixing.  Once
that is done I'll rerun the IAR over yesterday's logs and it will show up.

Josh


On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 10:37 AM, Tomas L. Byrnes <tomb () byrneit net> wrote:


This is a very interesting site. However, I notice that, in the "all in
the last 24 hours" it doesn't show the YouTube hijack. It does have a
lot of entries for 17557, most recently on 2/17.

How reliable is this system?



-----Original Message-----
From: owner-nanog () merit edu [mailto:owner-nanog () merit edu] On
Behalf Of Hank Nussbacher
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 11:33 PM
To: Steven M. Bellovin; nanog () merit edu
Subject: Re: YouTube IP Hijacking


At 05:31 AM 25-02-08 +0000, Steven M. Bellovin wrote:

Seriously -- a number of us have been warning that this could happen.
More precisely, we've been warning that this could happen
*again*; we
all know about many older incidents, from the barely noticed to the
very noisy.  (AS 7007, anyone?)  Something like S-BGP will
stop this cold.

Yes, I know there are serious deployment and operational
issues.  The
question is this: when is the pain from routing incidents
great enough
that we're forced to act?  It would have been nice to have done
something before this, since now all the world's script kiddies have
seen what can be done.

"we've been warning that this could happen *again*" - this is
happening every day - just look to:
http://cs.unm.edu/~karlinjf/IAR/prefix.php?filter=most<http://cs.unm.edu/%7Ekarlinjf/IAR/prefix.php?filter=most>
http://cs.unm.edu/~karlinjf/IAR/subprefix.php?filter=most<http://cs.unm.edu/%7Ekarlinjf/IAR/subprefix.php?filter=most>
for samples.  Thing is - these prefix hijacks are not big
ticket sites like Youtube or Microsoft or Cisco or even
whitehouse.gov - but rather just sites that never make it
onto the NANOG radar.

-Hank






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