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RE: An Attempt at Economically Rational Pricing: Time Warner Trial


From: "Rod Beck" <Rod.Beck () hiberniaatlantic com>
Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 21:55:13 -0000

In the Brave New World, the gap between the average user and the user whose peak demand determines upstream capacity 
needs, has widened. 

So the access providers will find that their infrastructure needs upgrading. In particular, the backhaul will need 
constant upgrading. And of course, more peering. :)

More 10 gig waves across the Atlantic! Hahooh!

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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-nanog () merit edu on behalf of Alex Rubenstein
Sent: Sun 1/20/2008 8:02 PM
To: Taran Rampersad; nanog () merit edu
Subject: RE: An Attempt at Economically Rational Pricing: Time Warner Trial
 

As long as the companies convince people that the "cap" is large
enough to be essentially the same as unmetered then most people
won't
care and will take the savings.    

I don't agree.

When we sold boatloads of dialup in the mid to late 90's, people did not
like caps, no matter how high they were. We sold a product early on for
$20/month which gave you 240 hours/month -- that was an average of 8
hours/day. However, most users never used more than 20 to 30 minutes a
day -- but we often got told they were moving to other providers because
they were 'unlimited.'

So, we adapted.

In any event, I've been watching this thread, and I'd have to say that
going down the road of metered pricing will only cause other providers
not to do this, and then market against TW. In fact, I'd bet on it. 

Am I the only one here who thinks that the major portion of the cost of
having a customer is *not* the bandwidth they use?



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