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Re: EU Official: IP Is Personal
From: Hank Nussbacher <hank () efes iucc ac il>
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 10:49:48 +0200 (IST)
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008, Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu wrote:
On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 22:33:20 PST, Owen DeLong said:And oddly enough, license plates on cars act *exactly the same way* - but nobody seems at all surprised when police can work backwards from a plate and come up with a suspect (who, admittedly, may not have been involved if the car was borrowed/stolen/etc).In order to be using the license plate, you had to be physically present in the car."It wasn't me at the hit-and-run, my car was stolen last night" "It wasn't me, my PC got zombied" Like I said, they work *exactly the same way*. But I'm giving up. We've got people here who work for companies that have business models that boil down to "given an IP address, figure out who to bill" - but although it identifies a person well enough to send them an invoice, they think it isn't enough to identify them.
I wouldn't be suprised if in a few years some EU/US law mandates IP number portability, just like people have with their cellphones. Imagine what that will do to the routing tables. How many /32s can we get into the RIBs these days? :-)
-Hank
Current thread:
- Re: EU Official: IP Is Personal, (continued)
- Re: EU Official: IP Is Personal Joel Jaeggli (Jan 24)
- The EU's and Google's official positions (was: EU Official: IP Is Personal) michael.dillon (Jan 25)
- Re: EU Official: IP Is Personal Valdis . Kletnieks (Jan 24)
- Re: EU Official: IP Is Personal Roland Perry (Jan 24)
- Re: EU Official: IP Is Personal Joe Greco (Jan 23)
- Re: EU Official: IP Is Personal Joseph S D Yao (Jan 23)
- Re: EU Official: IP Is Personal fred (Jan 24)
- Re: EU Official: IP Is Personal Valdis . Kletnieks (Jan 24)
- Re: EU Official: IP Is Personal Owen DeLong (Jan 24)
- Re: EU Official: IP Is Personal Valdis . Kletnieks (Jan 24)
- Re: EU Official: IP Is Personal Hank Nussbacher (Jan 25)
- Re: EU Official: IP Is Personal Matt Palmer (Jan 25)
- Re: EU Official: IP Is Personal Roland Perry (Jan 25)
- Re: EU Official: IP Is Personal Andy Davidson (Jan 25)
- Re: EU Official: IP Is Personal Roland Perry (Jan 25)
- Re: EU Official: IP Is Personal Stephane Bortzmeyer (Jan 25)
- Re: EU Official: IP Is Personal Owen DeLong (Jan 25)
- Re: EU Official: IP Is Personal Roland Perry (Jan 25)
- Re: EU Official: IP Is Personal Valdis . Kletnieks (Jan 24)
- Re: EU Official: IP Is Personal Roland Perry (Jan 25)
- Re: EU Official: IP Is Personal Jeff Shultz (Jan 25)
- Re: EU Official: IP Is Personal Joseph S D Yao (Jan 25)