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Re: the Intercage mess
From: Joe Provo <nanog-post () rsuc gweep net>
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 20:41:05 -0400
On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 01:37:43PM +0000, *Hobbit* wrote: [snip]
If this happened to some of the other major sources of crap that I'm thinking of, it would make the freaking NATIONAL NEWS. Where's the BACKBONE to go after the real high-volume sources, rather than continuing to kick sand in the face of some podunk little guy who can no longer defend himself?
The spine to do it left with suits minding the store & managing to the tune of fickle investors. For the same reason just refusing deaggregates has become difficult: the bad guys shield themselves by sitting in the same prefix/ASNs with sites your paying customers wish to reach. The suits are interested in - avoiding PR hassles - low call rates into the support centers - lower customer-churn numbers for their investor calls Therefore anyone with time & energy to block badness where there is collateral damage rarely has the stamina or internal political capital to have the suits' spin machine on their side. More network companies that are privately held with actual technocrats at the helm might help bring a vision beyond commoditization and marketing. -- RSUC / GweepNet / Spunk / FnB / Usenix / SAGE
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- Re: the Intercage mess Gadi Evron (Sep 24)
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