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Re: Fiber cut in SF area
From: Jared Mauch <jared () puck nether net>
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 21:34:13 -0400
On Apr 13, 2009, at 8:31 PM, Peter Lothberg wrote:
There are three solutions to the problem; A: Put a armed soldier every 150ft on the fiber path. B: Make the infrstructure so redundant that cutting things just makes you tired, but nothing hapens. C: Do nothing. As the society becomes more and more dependent on the infrastructure for electronic communication, my suggestion to policy makers has been that it should be easier to imprison all the government officials of a contry than knocking out it's infrastrcture.
I certainly think this trailer is the most insightful thought of the day.
When you're looking for backup comms, is it just going to be the ham radio operators and am/fm radio stations left if there were some outage? With tv having gone digital it's not possible to tune in and pick up the audio carrier anymore. Wartime and times of civil unrest the first thing you do is take over communication to the citizens. Without your internet^Wpodcast of the news, how will you know what is going on? If redundancy is sacrificed in the name of better quarterly earnings is it the right decision?
this is not only interesting from a network operators perspective but from a governance perspective as well. I've not done any ham radio stuff for ~15+ years but do keep a shortwave radio around (battery powered of course).
The first thing to happen will be the network will be severed. Look at what happened in Burma. Both their internet links were turned off, and not just taking down BGP, but the circuits were unplugged.
- jared
Current thread:
- RE: Fiber cut in SF area, (continued)
- RE: Fiber cut in SF area Crist Clark (Apr 13)
- RE: Fiber cut in SF area Peter Beckman (Apr 13)
- RE: Fiber cut in SF area David Barak (Apr 13)
- Re: Fiber cut in SF area Nathan Ward (Apr 13)
- Re: Fiber cut in SF area Jack Bates (Apr 13)
- Re: Fiber cut in SF area telmnstr (Apr 13)
- Re: Fiber cut in SF area Jack Bates (Apr 13)
- Re: Fiber cut in SF area Daryl G. Jurbala (Apr 13)
- Re: Fiber cut in SF area Nathan Ward (Apr 13)
- Re: Fiber cut in SF area Jared Mauch (Apr 13)
- Re: Fiber cut in SF area Peter Lothberg (Apr 13)
- Re: Fiber cut in SF area bmanning (Apr 13)
- Re: Fiber cut in SF area Peter Lothberg (Apr 13)
- RE: Fiber cut in SF area Deepak Jain (Apr 14)
- Re: Fiber cut in SF area Mike Lewinski (Apr 14)
- Re: Fiber cut in SF area Roy (Apr 14)
- Diversity - was: Fiber cut in SF area Wallace Keith (Apr 14)
- RE: Diversity - was: Fiber cut in SF area Frank Bulk (Apr 14)