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RE: dnscurve and DNS hardening, was Re: Dan Kaminsky
From: Skywing <Skywing () valhallalegends com>
Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 21:43:38 -0500
Of course, as long as an adversary in your packet path can force a seamless downgrade (e.g. to plain DNS or plain non-TLS SMTP), the hard security benefit is nowhere near as great as it's sometimes purported to be. And this is a problem that we'll be stuck living with for a very long time as far as I can tell. - S -----Original Message----- From: Naveen Nathan [mailto:naveen () calpop com] Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 7:05 PM To: John R. Levine Cc: nanog () nanog org Subject: Re: dnscurve and DNS hardening, was Re: Dan Kaminsky On Wed, Aug 05, 2009 at 09:17:01PM -0400, John R. Levine wrote:
... It seems to me that the situation is no worse than DNSSEC, since in both cases the software at each hop needs to be aware of the security stuff, or you fall back to plain unsigned DNS.
I might misunderstand how dnscurve works, but it appears that dnscurve is far easier to deploy and get running. The issue is merely coverage. How much of DNS do you want to protect. This is analagous to SMTP security, the more MTAs that support TLS the proportional increase of security in the system as a whole. Dnscurve appears to be another form of opportunistic encryption, the more servers that employ dnscurve means an accretion in security of DNS as a whole.
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- Re: Dan Kaminsky, (continued)
- Re: Dan Kaminsky Paul Vixie (Aug 04)
- Re: Dan Kaminsky bert hubert (Aug 04)
- DNS hardening, was Re: Dan Kaminsky John Levine (Aug 05)
- Re: DNS hardening, was Re: Dan Kaminsky bert hubert (Aug 05)
- Re: DNS hardening, was Re: Dan Kaminsky Phil Regnauld (Aug 05)
- Re: DNS hardening, was Re: Dan Kaminsky John R. Levine (Aug 05)
- Re: DNS hardening, was Re: Dan Kaminsky Steven M. Bellovin (Aug 05)
- Re: dnscurve and DNS hardening, was Re: Dan Kaminsky John R. Levine (Aug 05)
- Re: dnscurve and DNS hardening, was Re: Dan Kaminsky Mark Andrews (Aug 05)
- Re: dnscurve and DNS hardening, was Re: Dan Kaminsky Naveen Nathan (Aug 05)
- RE: dnscurve and DNS hardening, was Re: Dan Kaminsky Skywing (Aug 05)
- Re: dnscurve and DNS hardening, was Re: Dan Kaminsky Ben Scott (Aug 05)
- Re: dnscurve and DNS hardening, was Re: Dan Kaminsky Naveen Nathan (Aug 05)
- Re: dnscurve and DNS hardening, was Re: Dan Kaminsky Florian Weimer (Aug 06)
- Re: dnscurve and DNS hardening, was Re: Dan Kaminsky Alexander Harrowell (Aug 06)
- Re: dnscurve and DNS hardening, was Re: Dan Kaminsky Ben Scott (Aug 07)
- Re: Dan Kaminsky Paul Vixie (Aug 04)
- Re: dnscurve and DNS hardening, was Re: Dan Kaminsky Tony Finch (Aug 06)
- Re: dnscurve and DNS hardening, was Re: Dan Kaminsky Douglas Otis (Aug 06)
- Re: DNS hardening, was Re: Dan Kaminsky John R. Levine (Aug 05)
- Re: DNS hardening, was Re: Dan Kaminsky Douglas Otis (Aug 05)
- Re: DNS hardening, was Re: Dan Kaminsky Roland Dobbins (Aug 05)