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Re: Follow up to previous post regarding SAAVIS
From: Joe Provo <nanog-post () rsuc gweep net>
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 22:06:43 -0400
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 05:55:10PM -0500, Richard A Steenbergen wrote:
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 05:41:03PM -0400, Joe Provo wrote:Most ISPs don't have that level of management clue & willpower, as the same "but they will go to $competator who doesn't require it!" which has screwed up everything from domain registration to responsible BGP announcements fouls the customer interface as well. Account reps wanting an exception 'just this once' are the norm.I would make the opposite argument, my business would NEVER go to any network which didn't support IRR (and a bunch of other simple but important things, like a full set of non-secret BGP communities).
You and I would agree, but there are far more edge ASNs than mine, and last I checked you weren't running an edge. Just as with any commoditization, the large number of buyers tends to win out. If the world we wished existied, 3561 wouldn't have lost their good provider-hosted-IRR based filters. Cheers, Joe -- RSUC / GweepNet / Spunk / FnB / Usenix / SAGE
Current thread:
- RE: Follow up to previous post regarding SAAVIS, (continued)
- RE: Follow up to previous post regarding SAAVIS Frank Bulk (Aug 12)
- Re: Follow up to previous post regarding SAAVIS Richard A Steenbergen (Aug 12)
- Re: Follow up to previous post regarding SAAVIS Christopher Morrow (Aug 12)
- Re: Follow up to previous post regarding SAAVIS Joe Provo (Aug 12)
- Re: Follow up to previous post regarding SAAVIS Richard A Steenbergen (Aug 12)
- Re: Follow up to previous post regarding SAAVIS Nick Hilliard (Aug 13)
- Re: Follow up to previous post regarding SAAVIS Joe Provo (Aug 13)
- Re: Follow up to previous post regarding SAAVIS Richard A Steenbergen (Aug 14)
- Re: Follow up to previous post regarding SAAVIS Kanagaraj (Aug 14)
- Re: Follow up to previous post regarding SAAVIS Steve Gibbard (Aug 12)
- Re: Follow up to previous post regarding SAAVIS Joe Provo (Aug 12)
- Re: Follow up to previous post regarding SAAVIS Richard A Steenbergen (Aug 12)
- Re: Follow up to previous post regarding SAAVIS Joe Maimon (Aug 13)
- Re: Follow up to previous post regarding SAAVIS Ricky Beam (Aug 12)
- Re: Follow up to previous post regarding SAAVIS Christopher Morrow (Aug 13)
- RE: Follow up to previous post regarding SAAVIS Keith Medcalf (Aug 14)
- Re: Follow up to previous post regarding SAAVIS Leen Besselink (Aug 15)