RE: FCCs RFC for the Definition of Broadband

["Hiers, David" <David_Hiers () adp com>]

We're way past the time in which broadband meant more bits than baud, huh?  Was it the other way around?  I forget...

:)

Anyway:

"Broadband" could be defined as a duplex channel that is some positive multiple of the BW needed to carry the lowest 
resolution, full-power, public broadcast TV channel currently permitted by FCC regulation.

As technology and regulation changes, we'd always have a definition of "broadband" that is implementation independent, 
technology agnostic, and easy to grasp for most people.



David Hiers

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-----Original Message-----
From: Dorn Hetzel [mailto:dhetzel () gmail com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 1:16 PM
To: nanog () nanog org
Subject: FCCs RFC for the Definition of Broadband

not to mention all the lightning-blasted-routers that will be prevented by
FTTH :)  even with several layers of protection I still accumulate about one
dead interface of some sort each year on my very rural T-1...


On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 1:57 PM, jim deleskie <deleskie () gmail com> wrote:

> I agree we should all be telling the FCC that broadband is fiber to
> the home.  If we spend all kinds of $$ to build a 1.5M/s connection to
> homes, it's outdated before we even finish.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 1:38 PM, Fred Baker<fred () cisco com> wrote:
> > If it's about stimulus money, I'm in favor of saying that broadband
> implies
> > fiber to the home. That would provide all sorts of stimuli to the economy
> -
> > infrastructure, equipment sales, jobs digging ditches, and so on. I could
> > pretty quickly argue myself into suggesting special favors for deployment
> of
> > DNSSEC, multicast, and IPv6. As in, use the stimulus money to propel a
> leap
> > forward, not just waste it.
> >
> > On Aug 26, 2009, at 9:44 AM, Carlos Alcantar wrote:
> >
> > > I think the big push to get the fcc to define broadband is highly based
> > > on the rus/ntia setting definitions of what broadband is.  If any anyone
> > > has been fallowing the rus/ntia they are the one handing out all the
> > > stimulus infrastructure grant loan money.  So there are a lot of
> > > political reasons to make the definition of broadband a bit slower than
> > > one would think.  I guess it doesn't hurt that the larger lec's with the
> > > older infrastructure are shelling out the money to lobby to make sure
> > > the definition stays as low as can be.  They don't want to see the gov
> > > funding there competition.  Just my 2 cents.
> > >
> > > -carlos
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Ted Fischer [mailto:ted () fred net]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 8:50 AM
> > > To: nanog () nanog org
> > > Subject: Re: FCCs RFC for the Definition of Broadband
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Paul Timmins wrote:
> > > > Fred Baker wrote:
> > > > > On Aug 24, 2009, at 9:17 AM, Luke Marrott wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > What are your thoughts on what the definition of Broadband should be
> > >
> > > > > > going
> > > > > > forward? I would assume this will be the standard definition for a
> > > > > > number of
> > > > > > years to come.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Historically, narrowband was circuit switched (ISDN etc) and
> > >
> > > broadband
> > > > > was packet switched. Narrowband was therefore tied to the digital
> > > > > signaling hierarchy and was in some way a multiple of 64 KBPS. As the
> > >
> > > > > term was used then, broadband delivery options of course included
> > > > > virtual circuits bearing packets, like Frame Relay and ATM.
> > > >
> > > > of or relating to or being a communications network in which the
> > > > bandwidth can be divided and shared by multiple simultaneous signals
> > >
> > > (as
> > > > for voice or data or video)
> > > >
> > > > That's my humble opinion. Let them use a new term, like "High Speed
> > > > Internet".
> > > Seconded


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