RE: Is there anyone from ASPEWS on this list?

[Alex Lanstein <ALanstein () FireEye com>]

William Pitcock wrote:
> > > Cernal and Atrivo are two different entities, Atrivo used to host
> > > Cernal, but now they have different hosting arrangements.

I now understand the original point you were trying to make about Atrivo.  I disagree with your premise that it is 
actually a different entity than Cernel, but am not trying to debate that on this list for various reasons.  

Acting under my (incorrect or correct) assumption that they are in fact the same entity, I made my post to show that 
"the boys were back".  

That is, for a decent amount of time, parts of 85.255.112.0/20 were not being advertised, and hence the dns hijacking 
pointing selected http traffic to 67.210.0.0/20 wasn't happening.

My point was that it (fairly) recently started being advertised again, and it was the same old song and dance wrt 
dns/http hijacking/fraud.

Regards,

Alex Lanstein
FireEye, Inc.

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From: William Pitcock [nenolod () systeminplace net]
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 3:35 PM
To: Alex Lanstein
Cc: nanog () nanog org
Subject: RE: Is there anyone from ASPEWS on this list?

On Fri, 2009-12-11 at 09:55 -0800, Alex Lanstein wrote:
> > > > Also, the fact that Atrivo is *dead* and this
> > > > stuff is still listed means that anyone who gets
> > > > those blocks from ARIN next are basically screwed
>
> Why would you say Atrivo is dead?
>
> root@localhost --- {~}  nslookup www.googleadservices.com 85.255.114.83
> Server:         85.255.114.83
> Address:        85.255.114.83#53
>
> Name:   www.googleadservices.com
> Address: 67.210.14.113

That is Cernal, and it is hosted in Russia now.

Cernal and Atrivo are two different entities, Atrivo used to host
Cernal, but now they have different hosting arrangements.

Can people get a clue and understand this very critical difference?

Thanks.

William



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