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Re: sink.arpa question
From: Mark Andrews <marka () isc org>
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 10:33:33 +1100
In message <4B2BCEA2.7010402 () i6ix com>, Jason Bertoch writes:
Ted Hardie wrote:But I think the key question is actually different. Look at this text in RFC 2821: If one or more MX RRs are found for a given name, SMTP systems MUST NOT utilize any A RRs associated with that name unless they are located using the MX RRs; the "implicit MX" rule above applies only if there are no MX records present. If MX records are present, but none of them are usable, this situation MUST be reported as an error. If I put in an MX record pointing to a guaranteed non-present FQDN, someone complying with that text will throw an error rather than keep seeking for an A/AAAA. Is *that* useful? If so, then sink.arpa/1.0.0.257.in-addr.arpa as an MX record entry may be.Yes, I understand the RFC. That section is what allows this topic to be discussed in the first place. sink.arpa may very well be the interim solution, too. It definitely looks better than "0 .". It just seems like an ugly, smelly hack when the fundamental problem lies with allowing the implicit MX. It implies that I should, for the benefit of everyone, create a sink.arpa MX for every A record, where the effort could be better spent dropping the implicit MX rule and requiring an MX record for hosts that really do accept mail. /Jason
"MX 0 ." is not useable. "." is not a legal host name. For those MTA's that ignore the legal hostname rule there shouldn't be any address records at "." which also make it unusable. And for those of you worring about DNSSEC costs. NODATA is 1 NSEC/NSEC3 record unless it is from a wildcard where there are some addition records, whereas NXDOMAIN is usually 2 NSEC or 3 NSEC3 records + signatures. Mark -- Mark Andrews, ISC 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: marka () isc org
Current thread:
- sink.arpa question Ted Hardie (Dec 17)
- Re: sink.arpa question Joe Abley (Dec 17)
- Re: sink.arpa question Doug Barton (Dec 17)
- Re: sink.arpa question bmanning (Dec 17)
- Re: sink.arpa question Doug Barton (Dec 17)
- Re: sink.arpa question bmanning (Dec 17)
- Re: sink.arpa question Jason Bertoch (Dec 18)
- Re: sink.arpa question Tony Finch (Dec 18)
- Re: sink.arpa question Jason Bertoch (Dec 18)
- Re: sink.arpa question Ted Hardie (Dec 18)
- Re: sink.arpa question Jason Bertoch (Dec 18)
- Re: sink.arpa question Mark Andrews (Dec 18)
- Re: sink.arpa question Tony Finch (Dec 18)
- Re: sink.arpa question Tony Finch (Dec 20)
- Re: sink.arpa question Joe Greco (Dec 20)
- Re: sink.arpa question Pete Barnwell (Dec 20)
- Re: sink.arpa question Tony Finch (Dec 21)
- Re: sink.arpa question Joe Abley (Dec 17)